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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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AllBodies said:
Makes a ton of sense for cross-platform, and also Vulkan appears to be better than DX12 at the moment. Both in performance and stability.

Also if all the consoles start using Vulkan (phones do, and the PS4 uses/used OpenGL so I assume they're switching too), then pretty much everything would run it.
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In a perfect world yes all platforms would support vulkan. Issues is i cant see that happening in the real world :

* Xbox One uses its own "close to the metal" DirectX variation that is made to take advantage of the console HW (i think its almost a DX11 / 12 hybrid)
* PS4 uses a variation of OpenGL thats optimised for the HW as well

I cant see the console makers retooling their development kits for little to no performance gains. You also have apple who use their own metal API.

That being said having a fully cross compatible API for windows / linux / android covers a very large number of devices
 
TheRealDeal said:
I find that dx12 gave me a much better experience in the division. Higher fps and smoother due to more consistent. In Bf1 i do get better fps but it's more choppy. Been months since i played it though so could have changed. So dx12 is mixed for me at this moment. Some go on about dx12 not improving visuals but in the Division enabling dx12 definitely let me play with higher visuals. It's definitely an improvement but the work needs to be put in for us to benefit and Nvidia need to update there hardware so Dev's will take more notice. AMD need to gain more market share as well to force them if Nvidia won't. It's a shame that the market leader are behind in this way.
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You do have an i7 920. Of course it makes sense to use DX12 instead of DX11 and you will see more fps.
But when you have something like a 6700K @ 4.7Ghz, you will find that is the same if not worse to use DX12 compared to DX11.
 
Apache14 said:
In a perfect world yes all platforms would support vulkan. Issues is i cant see that happening in the real world :

* Xbox One uses its own "close to the metal" DirectX variation that is made to take advantage of the console HW (i think its almost a DX11 / 12 hybrid)
* PS4 uses a variation of OpenGL thats optimised for the HW as well

I cant see the console makers retooling their development kits for little to no performance gains. You also have apple who use their own metal API.

That being said having a fully cross compatible API for windows / linux / android covers a very large number of devices
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Yeah true. I was envisaging the next gen consoles personally.

Seeing this article: http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/82372-details-amd-zen-16-core-x86-apu-emerge/

If that kind of APU design is real, Sony putting a cut down version in the PS5 and writing all games in Vulkan on it would make a lot of sense, and then also force Microsoft to do similar.
 
AllBodies said:
Yeah true. I was envisaging the next gen consoles personally.

Seeing this article: http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/82372-details-amd-zen-16-core-x86-apu-emerge/

If that kind of APU design is real, Sony putting a cut down version in the PS5 and writing all games in Vulkan on it would make a lot of sense, and then also force Microsoft to do similar.
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Yeah PS5 next will probably run vulkan seeing as its "kind of" the successor to OpenGL. But its all down to how well Vulcan is adopted.

Tho with the current x86 console architecture i don't know if we will have a true console revision for a while. Im 1/2 expecting project scorpio to be on a single zen CCX with a polaris gpu module.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Yay, Vulkans going to be used in a game thats never going to be released. :p
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Fairly certain I have read that CryEngine, Lumberyard and Unreal are all adding Vulkan support.

Almost forgot about the AMD/Bethesda relationship. Looking forward to Prey. I wouldn't be surprised to see a FO4 patch.
 
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Panos said:
You do have an i7 920. Of course it makes sense to use DX12 instead of DX11 and you will see more fps.
But when you have something like a 6700K @ 4.7Ghz, you will find that is the same if not worse to use DX12 compared to DX11.
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Nah my mate has a 5930 and gets the same effect with his 290x. The Division is definitely a good scenario for dx12.
 
Has there been any real Vega news recently? I've gone a few pages back in the thread but as someone put it, there is a lot of "guff". Looking to go to 1440p soon, I want to stay on AMD, but I don't think R9 290 to RX480 is a shrewd move.
 
MSTRBKR said:
Has there been any real Vega news recently? I've gone a few pages back in the thread but as someone put it, there is a lot of "guff". Looking to go to 1440p soon, I want to stay on AMD, but I don't think R9 290 to RX480 is a shrewd move.
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In short no. There was a few pictures but that's about it since AMD launched a T-Shirt and confirmed the cards would be called RX Vega.
 
I think that, while Zen has been a big shake up in the cpu market with price/performance, AMD haven't really been knocking the prices down with their flagship cards in the same way in recent years. Fury wasn't exactly cheap, and I don't expect to see a 1080Ti competitor at half the price or anything crazy like that. Gpu prices closer to the thick end of £1k are here to stay. That said, I would be very happy to be wrong!

I have a gsync monitor so I'm a bit tied to nvidia, but if AMD offered close to 1080Ti performance at a significantly better price I'd be tempted to go back to the red team. Single card performance is where it's at these days with explicit multi gpu just not materializing.
 
I'm too tired of waiting on AMD they don't seem to be in a hurry they've had the Fury X out for nearly 2 years!!! whilst there's quite a few cards from Nvidia now trumping AMDS best
980 Ti, Titan X, 1070, 1080, Titan XP, 1080 Ti
 
Tommy_Here said:
I'm too tired of waiting on AMD they don't seem to be in a hurry they've had the Fury X out for nearly 2 years!!! whilst there's quite a few cards from Nvidia now trumping AMDS best
980 Ti, Titan X, 1070, 1080, Titan XP, 1080 Ti
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Was just looking at your sig Tommy. Seems we have a very similar system. Except mine will soon have the superior graphics card that is the RX Vega :p
 
TNA said:
Was just looking at your sig Tommy. Seems we have a very similar system. Except mine will soon have the superior graphics card that is the RX Vega :p
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haha good one :p
Honestly I'll be ****** if AMD bring out a faster card than Ti but personally I can only see them competing with 1080, to bring out a 1080 Ti beating card it'll have to be more than 2x as fast as a rx480 something I don't think AMD have up it's sleeve :P
 
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