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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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nashathedog said:
I could pretend I knew that, but I won't, because I didn't. :rolleyes:
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TNA said:
100% April fools. That would be a dumb move otherwise as VR is struggling to take of as it is.
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I am skeptical purely as they say it will be done in the viveport store and not in game, so maybe they will? It would bother me as well, as I really don't want to see ads at anytime, let alone when I have my headset on.
 
Gregster said:
I am skeptical purely as they say it will be done in the viveport store and not in game, so maybe they will? It would bother me as well, as I really don't want to see ads at anytime, let alone when I have my headset on.
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Yeah, it's bad enough it is as expensive as it is, then to put ads on top would take the biscuit imo. To be fair I don't know what exactly viveport is, but I have an idea :p
 
nashathedog said:
That should be when things get interesting, At the moment Nvidia is the majority market share holder and they aren't in a rush to see DX12 based games. Not yet anyway.
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Read what I said above:

akarypid said:
Come Scorpio, you're going to see a LOT of this. Microsoft wants to push everyone to Windows 10 and there's no better way to do that: lots of AAA titles, written only in DX12, performing amazingly on Scorpio and also on PC.
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Microsoft will go full-on DX12 and you will see that before the end of 2017. There is nothing NVidia can do about this no matter how much market share they have.

Scorpio games will simply have to use DX12, and all its PC ports will flow back to the PC as DX12 implementations. And they will be ported because MS wants them to be in the Windows store: it wants to get people to buy into Xbox (instead of Playstation) and Windows 10 (instead of Windows 7) and its store (instead of Steam etc).

Our only hope is Vulkan picks up instead...
 
JediFragger said:
AMD are rumoured to be charging licensing fees with Freesync 2, so possibly not :(
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Where did you read that?
Can I have a link please.

I read they are putting conditions on using the Freesync2 branding but that's to ensure the monitors using Freesync 2 as
a selling point actually offer the full Freesync experience with LFC and the wide working range required to support it.
They didn't really have a choice when even the big names like LG were only providing half-assed versions of it.
 
JediFragger said:
AMD are rumoured to be charging licensing fees with Freesync 2, so possibly not :(
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they are not charging fees, they just will be harder to get because it needs HDR and needs maximum refresh rate of the panel to be x2.5 of the minimum resfresh rate, so that it would be compatible with LFC.
 
Yeah, doubt there will be any costs. Just stricter rules if they want to use the Freesync 2 badge they need to meet those minimum requirements.
 
nashathedog said:
Where did you read that?
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The significance, besides the parallel standards, is that it will impact how AMD goes about certifying monitors, and potentially how “free” FreeSync 2 ends up being. The additional requirements mean that AMD will need to run a more complex certification program. They will need to bring in monitors to profile their native color space and confirm they meet the latency & refresh requirements. All of which cost time and money for AMD.

As a result, when questioned on the matter, AMD is not currently commenting on the subject of FreeSync 2 royalties. Presumably, AMD is pondering the idea of charging royalties on FreeSync 2 hardware.

The subject of royalties on gaming hardware is not a very happy subject, nor is it one that too many companies like to talk about. NVIDIA for their part does charge manufacturers a form of royalties on their G-Sync technology – this being part of the impetus for AMD calling their variable refresh implementation FreeSync – and while no one will go on record to confirm the numbers, what rumblings I’ve heard is that G-Sync is “not cheap.” But numbers aside, at the end of the day this makes variable refresh a value add feature for NVIDIA just as much as it does their monitor manufacturer partners, as they profit from the sale of G-Sync monitors. At the same time it also means that the ongoing development of G-Sync is self-sustaining, as the program can now be funded from G-Sync royalties.

There are a number of assumptions in here, but ultimately the fact that AMD isn’t immediately rejecting the idea of royalties could prove to be a very important one. Royalties at a minimum would help fund the certification program, and taken to the same extent as NVIDIA could become another revenue stream entirely. And since FreeSync 2 is aimed at high-end monitors, it would allow AMD to claim a piece of the pie on their own value add feature, as high-end monitors can fetch a significant profit of their own.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/10967...improving-ease-lowering-latency-of-hdr-gaming
 
580 comes first then Vega senior and some point after we presume Vega junior. End of year you get CPU with onboard Vega apparently, Im not sure who thats aimed at

Considering selling my 1070 as I won't be able to use my PC for 2 months as it is storage until I hopefully close on buying a house.
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Sounds a good idea if you arent able to use it. Just storage alone makes me not want anything valuable left to oxidise though it shouldnt with any decent atmosphere in a facility. Store it with some silica gel I think is the stuff to use
 
JediFragger said:
Thanks Tommy, I must have read that article at AT
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I'd seen it too but didn't think nothing of that part as the topic of royalties was asked by the author of the article,
AMD have not said a word it's all presumptions by the author due to them not commenting,
There's many possible reasons for that and lets be honest having monitors sent to AMD for authentication isn't something
that's going to require a lot of money AMD's end,
Just a few workers and some space and tools.
There's not going to be that many different Freesync 2 models hitting the market at any one time.

That said they may decide to charge something but good on em, If big monitor makers like LG hadn't taken the pee
with the level of Freesync support offered on their monitors AMD wouldn't of had to lock it down.

Some of the LG monitors have stated they're Freesync models while only have a small 20 to 30 hertz working range, some were as small as 12 hertz.
That meant Freesync was useless on the monitor and left users thinking the tech's rubbish
when it's every bit as good as G-sync when it's supported properly.
 
nashathedog said:
when it's every bit as good as G-sync when it's supported properly.
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I may have the wrong monitor to compare, but so far for me Gsync has seemed superior (had an X34A before). I suppose being a hardware solution would make things easier in regards to the driver side (The Division lacked Freesync support for a fair few months, only recently fixed).
 
JediFragger said:
I may have the wrong monitor to compare, but so far for me Gsync has seemed superior (had an X34A before). I suppose being a hardware solution would make things easier in regards to the driver side (The Division lacked Freesync support for a fair few months, only recently fixed).
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Sorry for the off topic but Rock, Paper, Shotgun did a revisit of the Sync monitors in anticipation for Freesync 2

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/02/02/freesync-vs-g-sync-revisited-freesync-2-is-coming/

Interesting read!
 
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