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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1
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Indeed, Scorpio having it has my hopes up.
Along with that, AMD talking about pushing freesync 2 in TVs in general, which requires HDMI 2.1.
And if they don't ship Vega with 2.1, how are they going to offer it next year when TVs start using it? Are they going to just refresh Vega just to add it, and annoy their customers?
Nvidia are presumably launching Volta in 2h 2018, which should have 2.1, but I don't think AMD are meant to launch anything. Maybe a ~£200 Navi card, and the 7nm Super-Vega card, but nothing else.
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I think i got off lightly there consdering some of the pictures of me floating around on this forum.
Hmm what are are you doing here?
Haven't seen you posting for quite some time in this discussion.... what prompted that????????????
Tommys post, it needed context.
I wouldn't try and read anything into it, just coincedance.
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I really doubt it. They haven't even smashed intel with their new CPU's other than on pricing and reckon AMD will probably do the same with their GPU's, in fact, I was more confident in their CPU's than I am in their new GPU's, especially as Nvidia's next gen is getting closer as the days/weeks/months tick by of AMD's no show. I'll be surprised if they get near the Ti or Titan X but if they do, Nvidia will have an answer soon afterwards - they're well in control. As always, AMD will have to be really competitive on pricing and I hope it's not another rush job otherwise day one buyers will be beta testers
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I'm hoping they can pull a new price performance king out the bag at the £280-330 bracket, something that obliterates the 1070, and is closer to a 1080. There is a lot more market share in that segment than the epeen segment, although from a marketing point of view having the fastest card does help, so maybe they'll do a Titan competitor just for that, even if they only sell a handful.
I'll believe it when I see it though, my Ryzen build hit the exact place I expected and cost a crap ton less than getting the Xeon E5/6900K setup that was previously on the cards, so I have faith that they will not disappoint.
I'll believe it when I see it though, my Ryzen build hit the exact place I expected and cost a crap ton less than getting the Xeon E5/6900K setup that was previously on the cards, so I have faith that they will not disappoint.
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I really doubt it. They haven't even smashed intel with their new CPU's other than on pricing and reckon AMD will probably do the same with their GPU's, in fact, I was more confident in their CPU's than I am in their new GPU's, especially as Nvidia's next gen is getting closer as the days/weeks/months tick by of AMD's no show. I'll be surprised if they get near the Ti or Titan X but if they do, Nvidia will have an answer soon afterwards - they're well in control. As always, AMD will have to be really competitive on pricing and I hope it's not another rush job otherwise day one buyers will be beta testers
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Zen as a product is absolutely barnstorming, as an overall product is rinses Intel in the desktop segment.
Its probably the best all round CPU available on the market today, while not 7700k 5ghz gaming performance it is within touching distance. It's competing with the 6900k while less than half the price in professional apps.
In the month it's been released performance in all metrics has already increased significantly.
Take the Intel coloured specs off for a minute dude
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So no real news then
Both of you have biased and exaggerated positions on this.
BASH!
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I really doubt it. They haven't even smashed intel with their new CPU's other than on pricing and reckon AMD will probably do the same with their GPU's, in fact, I was more confident in their CPU's than I am in their new GPU's, especially as Nvidia's next gen is getting closer as the days/weeks/months tick by of AMD's no show. I'll be surprised if they get near the Ti or Titan X but if they do, Nvidia will have an answer soon afterwards - they're well in control. As always, AMD will have to be really competitive on pricing and I hope it's not another rush job otherwise day one buyers will be beta testers
If Vega does as well as Ryzen has it'll be great news.
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Maybe so but he's not wrong, Ryzen's a great product to return to the cpu market with, Has it been a bug free release? No, not by a long shot but,
the one thing a new architecture on a new platform introducing new tech has never been is bug free when released.
The underlying product has a lot of potential that it will realise given time.
For me Intel will need to offer a great 6 core Coffelake cpu to stop me moving over to AMD on my next system update.
They're more than capable of doing that though, so in the end we all get what we want and that's a competitive market with pricing kept in check.
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Nasha, Broadwell-E was not but free for a good while on release as well, why should Intel be given a pass for this but AMD are not allowed the same grace?
Too many people here with short memories and selective hearing
Broadwell-E has been golden for me and I got it at launch, so not sure what you are on about?
Some boards, mostly MSI I seem to recall had some issues on launch requiring a BIOS update - largely it has just worked for most setups I've encountered using Gigabyte boards, etc.
My experience with it is relatively limited but I'm not aware of anything comparable to the teething issues Ryzen is going through.
My experience with it is relatively limited but I'm not aware of anything comparable to the teething issues Ryzen is going through.
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Even 8pack I believe said the "AM4 platform needs some work".
I haven't said it's rubbish however but it hasn't really kicked Intel's butt and again seemed a rush job (well, the mobo support) with issues.
Don't get me wrong, I like it, and am watching closely as I may pick up an 8 core 1800 for a work machine but for years people were sayig Intel were sleeping yet AMD released a new CPU that doesn't exactly blow it away in all scenario's, that's what I mean. So intel have not been as "off the ball" due to lack of competition as many were suggesting - people seemed to have forgotten that too.
I reckon they've invested more in CPU's than their GPU's too - we'll soon see though. Pascal is getting close to one year old tech so for AMD to kick butt they need to completely overtake it - offering "cheaper" parts will be good but not good enough as they need an "extreme" card to show what they can really do if they can do it.
And I don't care about the companies - I'd love it if AMD brought out a card 10% faster than a TXp for the same money but it needs to happen soon as things move fast in IT (in 6 months NV will be closer to releasing a 1180 which will likely be 20%+ faster again). 5% faster than a 1080 for say 20-30% less £ will be meeehhhhhhhhh or whatever that term is people use
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Even 8pack I believe said the "AM4 platform needs some work".
I haven't said it's rubbish however but it hasn't really kicked Intel's butt and again seemed a rush job (well, the mobo support) with issues.
Don't get me wrong, I like it, and am watching closely as I may pick up an 8 core 1800 for a work machine but for years people were sayig Intel were sleeping yet AMD released a new CPU that doesn't exactly blow it away in all scenario's, that's what I mean. So intel have not been as "off the ball" due to lack of competition as many were suggesting - people seemed to have forgotten that too.
I reckon they've invested more in CPU's than their GPU's too - we'll soon see though. Pascal is getting close to one year old tech so for AMD to kick butt they need to completely overtake it - offering "cheaper" parts will be good but not good enough as they need an "extreme" card to show what they can really do if they can do it.
And I don't care about the companies - I'd love it if AMD brought out a card 10% faster than a TXp for the same money. 5% faster than a 1080 for say 20-30% less £ will be meeehhhhhhhhh or whatever that term is people use
I get what you mean but it costs resources to do that and AMD think they can make more money by targeting a different consumer group. Plus 5% faster than a 1080 for say 20-30% less £ would be
!!I don't think AMD's aim is to drive technology at the Ultra high expensive end. their focus is bringing the existing Ultra high end down to consumer prices. Thus raising the bar significantly as it's available to the average joe. If only a small subset of people have access to the top technology then Dev wont bother to improve their games as much as they should as most people wont be able to use it.
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I get what you mean but it costs resources to do that and AMD think they can make more money by targeting a different consumer group. Plus 5% faster than a 1080 for say 20-30% less £ would be
I don't think AMD's aim is to drive technology at the Ultra high expensive end. their focus is bringing the existing Ultra high end down to consumer prices. Thus raising the bar significantly as it's available to the average joe. If only a small subset of people have access to the top technology then Dev wont bother to improve their games as much as they should as most people wont be able to use it.
I agree (but not on getting excited about 5% faster as 1 year for now we may have say 50% faster for 1080 money when 1180 release) but time is of the essence too - the 1080 is now what 10 months old? As time goes by the expectations become greater, hence, what would it take to "kick their butt" as someone else put it? Cheaper similar parts at the mid-range of some year year old tech?. SUre from a business perspective it matters but I get the impression people are talking out and out performance on these forums especially when the talk is of butt kicking ?
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