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Right, now that we got that out of the way for the day, can we get back to talking about monitors please? Who here still games at 1080p? Lol :p

With the lack of Vega news I have now switched to actual reality gaming, such as monopoly / scrabble. My FPS is insane and resolution has never been better......
 
Me.

Tried 1440p and went is 'that it' just about the most overrated gaming purchase I've ever had, back to 1080p I went for the higher fps/IQ.:p

I never got on with 1440p.. i went back to 1080p but i saw a large panel 4k monitor and was like "woooooow" it isn't ideal for fps like standard size monitors running 1080p 144hz but my god games look amazing... Even playing dead space 3 at 4k was like playing a new game.
 
Me.

Tried 1440p and went is 'that it' just about the most overrated gaming purchase I've ever had, back to 1080p I went for the higher fps/IQ.:p

Not sure how you went higher IQ by going back to 1080p :p

I recently tried a highly rated 23" LG Freesync monitor. It was good for what it was I suppose, but the difference between it and my 4K monitor was like night and day. The difference between 1080p and 2160p is huge IMO. You won't find it overrated when you eventually one day try it ;)

The recent Windows 10 update has improved windows scaling for me. So I actually think I won't need to go 32" 4K for my next purchase now. Might even get a 24" to get better ppi.

Can't wait for 4K Freesync 2 monitors to come out :D

I never got on with 1440p.. i went back to 1080p but i saw a large panel 4k monitor and was like "woooooow" it isn't ideal for fps like standard size monitors running 1080p 144hz but my god games look amazing... Even playing dead space 3 at 4k was like playing a new game.
Indeed they do. And people who say otherwise either did not see a proper calibrated 4K monitor or need to go specsavers :p
 
I feel like 1440 @144hz is a great compromise. >60hz is great, no doubt about it, and the sheer space 1440 gives you over 1080 is enough. I feel like 4k is great for games if you've got them grunts, but not so much for "productivity".
 
Might even get a 24" to get better ppi.

I couldn't go with a 24", It sounds like the equivalent to using one of the old 14" portable telly's we had growing up, I think 32" is the minimum I'd go with 4k,
That said after having 34" 1440p ultrawide I'll try to hang on until we can get a 4k Ultrawide with G-sync or Freesync 2.
For now I just need to get my hands on Vega so I can get on with my backlog of AAA titles I haven't played yet.
 
I couldn't go with a 24", It sounds like the equivalent to using one of the old 14" portable telly's we had growing up, I think 32" is the minimum I'd go with 4k,
That said after having 34" 1440p ultrawide I'll try to hang on until we can get a 4k Ultrawide with G-sync or Freesync 2.
For now I just need to get my hands on Vega so I can get on with my backlog of AAA titles I haven't played yet.
Yeah, that is an individual preference thing. I personally sit quite close to my monitor so 24" is fine for me. Same for ultrawide really, it does more for some than others. I may try ultrawide again once they eventually come out at 4K resolution, by then there maybe better support for it also. Plus graphics cards to power it. Star Citizen would likely look glorious on such a monitor. Right now though I prefer the higher IQ of 4K over 1440p ultrawide.
 
But if they barely notice the difference, does it matter? All these technologies slowly increase image quality, but few are a big step change. 48fps films are an image quality improvement but most still prefer 24fps.
Who is 'they' here? The average person? Why does this keep being brought up? Does the average person care about the difference between a GTX660Ti and a 1080Ti? Nope. Yet I wouldn't ever dream of saying that the difference isn't game-changing, especially here on a hardware enthusiast board.

You guys enjoy your 1440p and 4k monitors yet I could *equally* argue that those aren't really notable upgrades over 1080p by the exact same reasoning. Because the 'average person' wouldn't think so. You guys enjoy your 27"+ monitors, but those dont really matter because 'the average person' wouldn't really care. It's not a good argument and it's absolutely *bizarre* hearing it on a board like this.

I dont get this pushback. Well-done HDR is awesome. And I think a lot of y'all trying to downplay it will feel silly as things develop and it becomes the new standard. Maybe when more monitors get it, you'll stop pretending it doesn't matter. It's not just some little step up.

As for 24fps vs 48fps, it's a fairly different situation. For one, it's not about image quality. And there are legit arguments that it detracts from 'cinematic quality' of video, especially movies. My opinion is split on it. I greatly appreciate the lack of jerkiness with panning shots and whatnot, but I also feel the 'soap opera effect' does rear its ugly head and makes certain things look a lot more fake.
 
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I feel like 1440 @144hz is a great compromise. >60hz is great, no doubt about it, and the sheer space 1440 gives you over 1080 is enough. I feel like 4k is great for games if you've got them grunts, but not so much for "productivity".

Its good for things like presentations and drawing diagrams because you can zoom in and make small adjustments quickly the net effect is nicely aligned objects and better pictures. Trick with 4K is it gives you access to large screens i.e. larger than 32" on your desk.

In gaming terms it fills your field of view, I hardly if ever use my TrackIR now.... Not so great for fast FPS games though its a bit too much, DayZ for example is much better viewed in 3rd person on a big screen on your desk.
 
Maybe there should be an official news thread and keep this one for gossip.

You know the ones with all the epic asterix ********Official News Yo*********
 
Who is 'they' here? The average person? Why does this keep being brought up? Does the average person care about the difference between a GTX660Ti and a 1080Ti? Nope. Yet I wouldn't ever dream of saying that the difference isn't game-changing, especially here on a hardware enthusiast board.

You guys enjoy your 1440p and 4k monitors yet I could *equally* argue that those aren't really notable upgrades over 1080p by the exact same reasoning. Because the 'average person' wouldn't think so. You guys enjoy your 27"+ monitors, but those dont really matter because 'the average person' wouldn't really care. It's not a good argument and it's absolutely *bizarre* hearing it on a board like this.

I dont get this pushback. Well-done HDR is awesome. And I think a lot of y'all trying to downplay it will feel silly as things develop and it becomes the new standard. Maybe when more monitors get it, you'll stop pretending it doesn't matter. It's not just some little step up.

As for 24fps vs 48fps, it's a fairly different situation. For one, it's not about image quality. And there are legit arguments that it detracts from 'cinematic quality' of video, especially movies. My opinion is split on it. I greatly appreciate the lack of jerkiness with panning shots and whatnot, but I also feel the 'soap opera effect' does rear its ugly head and makes certain things look a lot more fake.

HDR will be great once we get proper versions of it on a monitor and support for it starts to improve. Right now I am not too excited by it as it is, but I know it will be a big deal in a couple of years time. My take on it anyway.

Hopefully Freesync 2 monitors have proper HDR, not like that new LG 32UD99 with it's fake HDR. Better than nothing I suppose, but not for the price they are asking for it.


Lovely, thank you :D
 
Yeah, that is an individual preference thing. I personally sit quite close to my monitor so 24" is fine for me. Same for ultrawide really, it does more for some than others. I may try ultrawide again once they eventually come out at 4K resolution, by then there maybe better support for it also. Plus graphics cards to power it. Star Citizen would likely look glorious on such a monitor. Right now though I prefer the higher IQ of 4K over 1440p ultrawide.

I agree in principal. Something along the lines of the 40" 4k Philips monitors would be my next move if I needed to upgrade today,
but luckily I don't as they need a few more years to develop their 4k monitors to the point where it isn't a trade off as it is now,
Having to choose a monitor with this or a monitor with that rather than having it all on one monitor is the problem 4k has today,
I'm not talking about Freesync or G-sync I mean choosing between things like 4k or 144hz.

Eventually we'll get 4k & 4kuw monitors that have it all I just wonder how keen they are on giving us that,
because once we can get them fully tricked out they'll then need to find the next must-have tech to get us to upgrade again.

My ideal monitor would have the following specs, 40" 144hz IPS panel, HDR, Full range adaptive sync with LFC support or
G-sync, low response times and a 4k 16:9 or UW4k 21:9 resolution.
 
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