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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1
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Soldato
I'm not sure anymore. I actually see the 1070 as a 1080/1200p card now. You just have to look at the fps it gets in the most recent AAA titles to see that.
If you look through the numbers provided by Guru3d, your see in the latest titles the 1070 is really now a superb sub 1440p card.
I see the 1080 as a 1400p. but I am not willing to pay £500 for one. Hoping AMD can bring the prices down.
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You're in for the long haul then mate! Be a while before we get anything like that...
If only we lived in a world where all games were as exceptionally well optimised as Doom. Ah well, one can dream.
Dream indeed. I'm appaulled that Dishonoured 2 still has performance issues 6 months later, worse than Arkham Knight. At least that game sorted itself out.
In an age where a 970 is no longer sufficient for 1080p60 on max settings... I'd have to agree. Looks like 4k will get even harder for AMD the longer they leave it, to make a card capable of 4k60.
If only we lived in a world where all games were as exceptionally well optimised as Doom. Ah well, one can dream.
I hope AMDs partnership with Bethesda means we get some proper Vulkan optimised games.
Hell even 20% of that would be a huge improvement for the buggy messes that Bethesda usually put out.
yea it can power 1440p but some games struggle to keep over 60FPS on high/ultra settings. It's why i changed from a 980Ti 1550Mhz to a 1080Ti 2050Mhz.
The 1080ti copes fine.
Soldato
How do they compare to the TitanX?
That is the Titan X I'm talking about, and that's shown in the video. Or do you mean the Titan X Maxwell?
The Titan X (Pascal) from 2016 is 122% faster in 4K DOOM Vulkan compared to Titan X Maxwell.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/gtx-1080-ti-review-benchmarks/#benchmarks
No reviews for the NEW Titan Xp. Bloody hell the naming is a confusing mess; normal consumers have no chance.
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Soldato
Again Nvidia. The need for a GPU like a 1070 to power games sub 1400p you could argue is due to Nvidia holding back things like DX12 and Vulkan in favour of Dx11 and Game Works.
Why? Becuase that's where their strength lies. They can sell ever more powerful cards.
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On the other hand DX12 and Vulkan temporarily will bring more FPS.... but eventually Devs will use the excess FPS to improve the IQ in games so we will be back down again to 40-80 depending on GPU but with twice the amount of IQ we currently have in games.
May take 5 years tho for the gaming ecosystem to get there.
Why? Becuase that's where their strength lies. They can sell ever more powerful cards.
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On the other hand DX12 and Vulkan temporarily will bring more FPS.... but eventually Devs will use the excess FPS to improve the IQ in games so we will be back down again to 40-80 depending on GPU but with twice the amount of IQ we currently have in games.
May take 5 years tho for the gaming ecosystem to get there.
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When the new Doom VR game is shown during E3 on 11th June it's not going to be demoed by Bethesda using an Nvidia card
This is possibly why the 4k Vulcan performance comparison in Doom is a key one because it is pretty much the target resolution for Doom VR and it needs to hit 90fps with low latency.
Ditto Fallout 4 VR....
With Star Citizen confirmed as using Vulkan, one of the big questions is whether Destiny 2 will use Vulkan, if it does it will be a major boost to AMD.
Soldato
When the new Doom VR game is shown during E3 on 11th June it's not going to be demoed by Bethesda using an Nvidia card
This is possibly why the 4k Vulcan performance comparison in Doom is a key one because it is pretty much the target resolution for Doom VR and it needs to hit 90fps with low latency.
Ditto Fallout 4 VR....
With Star Citizen confirmed as using Vulkan, one of the big questions is whether Destiny 2 will use Vulkan, if it does it will be a major boost to AMD.
Fallout 4 VR?
If my GTX970 is still fine for 1080p/60fps, a GTX1070 can basically do the same for 1440p. Yes, not on Ultra for everything, but the jump in resolution is worth dropping some settings.
Are we still doing this thing where people think that because of Doom, Vulkan is an inherently AMD-favored API?When the new Doom VR game is shown during E3 on 11th June it's not going to be demoed by Bethesda using an Nvidia card
This is possibly why the 4k Vulcan performance comparison in Doom is a key one because it is pretty much the target resolution for Doom VR and it needs to hit 90fps with low latency.
Ditto Fallout 4 VR....
With Star Citizen confirmed as using Vulkan, one of the big questions is whether Destiny 2 will use Vulkan, if it does it will be a major boost to AMD.
And Fallout 4 performed better on Nvidia cards.
I also have no idea what Destiny has to do with Star Citizen.
Yea, it's coming out this year. Entire game is being reworked to be played in full 360 degrees with motion controls.Fallout 4 VR?
Soldato
At this point in time we are so close to Vega I'm better of waiting. I want to move up from 1200p to 1440p.
I have a 970 presently so waiting for new GPU and monitor combo.
I have a 970 presently so waiting for new GPU and monitor combo.
AMD favoured in the sense that it will show the AMD cards and CPU's in the best possible light. AMD have a great Vulkan story.
Destiny 2 and SC Probably two of the biggest PC game releases of the year.
yea and apparently, fallout4 will be the best VR game yet, something about the the slow paced weaponery, and the V.A.T target system, makes it perfect for VR, although i don't see how they will solve locomotion.Fallout 4 VR?
i am certainly intrigued by all the hype they pumped to fallout 4 VR, guess we will see at E3.
Soldato
Is this an AMD or Nvidia tying? I imagine Nvidia considering Fallout 4 was a Gameworks title.
See I've gone and bought a Ryzen CPU so kind of feel to get the most from it I need an AMD GPU.
Soldato
It's not just because of Doom, as AMD's Mantle was the basis for Vulkan and, DX12 has huge similarities to both api's, it's not too hard to imagine that some people have the opinion that at this moment in time AMD actually do know how to get better performance from an architecture specifically built for these new APi's.
Soldato
Bethseda has partnered with AMD they both implied it was for the foreseeable future not just a couple of titles.
bethesda is working with AMD now, for almost all their catalogue of games including fallout 4.
about Ryzen, Nvidia will optimize their drivers for Ryzen, they would want their GPU to work well no matter the cpu you use.
Soldato
And AMD GPU'S will work well with Intel. Not like they are going to alienate the huge number of Intel users.
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