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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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I literally bought the Ti out of desperation for more frames tbh! I'm hoping Vega is as fast as the Ti but I just can't shake the feeling that they're going to target the more volume market and it'll be a bit better than the 1080 at similar pricing. It would make sense after all, and leave the better performing parts for 7nm.

What *would* be a nice surprise is a Polaris-based 590 with more CU's to help battle the 1070 at a better price-point, that would be totally unexpected...

I know I am being silly here but I would not mind a 595x2 as in 2x polaris on one board for around 420-450 quid and it would be even sweeter if it had more CU's on top of the standard 580 per core. Again I know I am being silly. I just find dual GPU cards done right very fascinating.
 
Oh.. I thought it was :(
It is one of the biggest things about Freesync 2 capability but from reading, I am not sure that means that all Freesync 2 monitors will be HDR. My Asus PG348Q is a HDR monitor for the record but not a true 10bit monitor, so not entirely sure if it will be the same thing or not (if that makes sense).
 
I don't think HDR is a requirement of Freesync 2 from what I have read but an option.

Oh.. I thought it was :(

I wasn't sure but HDR not being a requirement is a good thing not a bad thing,
It means non HDR monitors also get regulated,
I hope the only requirements are that it has a wide working range and LFC support because that way it'll cover them all and
any future monitors choosing to use just the Freesync name rather than Freesync 2 are gaming lemons that it's best to avoid.
It makes it easier for us.
 
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The problem I have is this:

1. Monitor choice locks me in to manufacturer for the long term. Nvidia seem to release cards more regularly.
2. Gameworks is like a weed. It's prevalent every where.
3. Nvidia do seem to have more advanced stuff packed in in to the drivers.
4. Being a Ryzen 1700 owner not sure how much of this 'Nvidia drivers not optimized in DX12 for multi-core cpus' is a problem.
5. I've been an Nvidia owner since the 670 launched. I am more comfortable Green than Red... however that's a bit murky now that I own a Ryzen.
 
The problem I have is this:

1. Monitor choice locks me in to manufacturer for the long term. Nvidia seem to release cards more regularly.
2. Gameworks is like a weed. It's prevalent every where.
3. Nvidia do seem to have more advanced stuff packed in in to the drivers.
4. Being a Ryzen 1700 owner not sure how much of this 'Nvidia drivers not optimized in DX12 for multi-core cpus' is a problem.
5. I've been an Nvidia owner since the 670 launched. I am more comfortable Green than Red... however that's a bit murky now that I own a Ryzen.

What are the reason 3 driver treats?
I thought with Relive and Crimson it was pretty much level pegging.
 
Yeah seen that ^^^^^ i think he is the first reviewer to actually look at Radeon Chill, its really good tech.
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Free Sync 2 screen options with or without HDR is nothing but a good thing, it means you have a choice, pay a bit more for one with HDR or a bit less for one with just Free-Sync.

According to AMD Free-Sync is set to double by next year, that would be a choice of 200 screens.
 
What are the reason 3 driver treats?
I thought with Relive and Crimson it was pretty much level pegging.

Ansel, Shadow play, Fast sync/Adaptive Sync, Gameworks is a plus which AMD doesn't have, Game ready drivers on day one.

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On the down side I must remember that they have lesser DX12 and Vulkan performance than AMD.

But I've never owned an a 1000 series card so not sure how true that is!

If the 1070 wasn't still touching £400 I'd probably have upgraded by now. The current 1000 series are about £100 overpriced. (1070/1080)
 
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Ansel, Shadow play, Fast sync/Adaptive Sync, Gameworks is a plus which AMD doesn't have, Game ready drivers on day one.

Ansel is just a fancy 360' screen capture thing, its ok if you like capturing all round screen captures, AMD do have Shadowplay, the same features are built right into the Re-Live drivers, its every bit as good, Fast-Sync is like V-Sync only without the FPS cap and AMD also put out "day one game ready drivers" They just don't make a named feature of it to make it look like getting drivers on time is special, it isn't and nVidia don't even deliver on it consistently.

BTW, i'm a GTX 1070 owner and i have used Radeon Re-Live for a few weeks recently on a borrowed 290X, your wrong, nVidia don't have anything you would miss with AMD. Nothing.

Radeon Chill is good tho, nVidia don't have that.
 
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The 1080ti owners thread is very busy with people just spending money on a super expensive card with no care for what Vega might do to the market.
Because realistically there nothing AMD will do that will drastically alter the GPU landscape with Vega. Te RX580 is already using similar power to the 1080I, Pascal is around twice the performance per p watt. AMD could make a massive leap and end up with a card that is going to be around the same performance if all goes well. Then what, at best they will only charge a small amount less than the Pascal offerings. AMD don't want to have budget prices and minimal profit margins unless they have to. Vega pricing will be very relative to Pascal. There is never gign to be a Vega card that is faster than the 1080Ti for half the price. Best case scenario is slightly faster for slightly less cash, which is hardly a big deal if you had already purchased a 1080ti.

Remember, the last time AMD had a high end card with the FuryX it released it at the same price as the 980Ti, but by that point the 980Ti as already getting small discounts so the FuryX ended up more expensive and slower.
 
Ansel, Shadow play, Fast sync/Adaptive Sync, Gameworks is a plus which AMD doesn't have, Game ready drivers on day one.

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On the down side I must remember that they have lesser DX12 and Vulkan performance than AMD.

But I've never owned an a 1000 series card so not sure how true that is!

If the 1070 wasn't still touching £400 I'd probably have upgraded by now. The current 1000 series are about £100 overpriced. (1070/1080)

I am currently enjoy awesome performance on my rx 480. AMDs drivers out side the annoying bug from time to time has never been better performance wise in my own experience. Gameworks is not something I am impressed with in its current form. They keep showing all kinds of sick and good looking demoes all claimed to be running live yet all we get in games are watered down effects that still requires a supercomputer to run for some odd reason. I don't understand if this is just poor implementation on the game devs part or perhaps overselling it a bit on nvidias. However that said I do wish AMD would offer something like Fast sync and the newish radeon settings i am not a fan off at all. It may be fast to load but its so clumsy and feels more like showing off than presenting actual options to tinker with. But i understand that the average consumer that never tinkers with anything will look and say "SHINY". This is all of course my personal opinion.
 
Because realistically there nothing AMD will do that will drastically alter the GPU landscape with Vega. Te RX580 is already using similar power to the 1080I, Pascal is around twice the performance per p watt. AMD could make a massive leap and end up with a card that is going to be around the same performance if all goes well. Then what, at best they will only charge a small amount less than the Pascal offerings. AMD don't want to have budget prices and minimal profit margins unless they have to. Vega pricing will be very relative to Pascal. There is never gign to be a Vega card that is faster than the 1080Ti for half the price. Best case scenario is slightly faster for slightly less cash, which is hardly a big deal if you had already purchased a 1080ti.

All of that is nonsense given Vega is not Polaris.
 
Ansel, Shadow play, Fast sync/Adaptive Sync, Gameworks is a plus which AMD doesn't have, Game ready drivers on day one.

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On the down side I must remember that they have lesser DX12 and Vulkan performance than AMD.

But I've never owned an a 1000 series card so not sure how true that is!

If the 1070 wasn't still touching £400 I'd probably have upgraded by now. The current 1000 series are about £100 overpriced. (1070/1080)

Okay cheers, I can vaguely remember what Ansel is (screenshots?), Out of the others we have Relive which seems to be every bit as good as Shadowplay, that said I've only used it a couple of times.
As for Fast sync/Adaptive Sync I'm not sure what the situation is with those as I haven't taken a lot of notice as Freesync is what I was after.
Gameworks doesn't really count but even so AMD do now have open works and on top of that Nvidia have opened access to Gameworks so that in future AMD can optimize for it so it's no longer gives Nvidia the black box advantage it used to, In theory.
 
All of that is nonsense given Vega is not Polaris.
That is great enlightenment.



Of course Vega is not Polaris, but Vega is an evolution of GCN. Vega is designed and sold by AMD, just like Polaris, and just like any company that aims to still exist in the future follows basic economics in regards to product pricing.
 
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