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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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Kaapstad said:
What people forget is Vega will be judged by what its bang for buck ratio is in the same way as the RX480/580 are, not whether it can beat card X Y or Z from NVidia.

Anyone who is that obsessed about having the fastest card available can go out and buy a Titan Xp but as most people would agree only a fool would do that.
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Right on the bang for buck bit. Which is why I'd hope that Vega comes in at most at 1080 prices. But somehow I'm doubtful the first HBM2 card will be so cheap.

Back before the 1080ti launched or was even announced, I posted that the next GPU that was capable of 4k 60 would be the one I'd buy. At the time, I looked at the Titan XP and thought, we might be waiting a while yet, since it didn't seem to me like the Titan XP could manage that feat. Fast forward to now, the 1080ti seems capable of it and just the other day, one of the few tidbits about Vega that was let out by Mr Raja Koduri, was that AMD intended Vega to be a proper 4k card and that they're happy that they've managed that. If he's not full of nonsense, then I'd be happy, provided the price is right.

As much as I've been tempted to buy a 1080ti, both the price and recent Nvidia drivers have put me off. I don't feel a GPU should be priced that much. If Vega can solve both problems, pricing and providing good 4k performance... I'll be there day 1 (or as close to it as I can considering claims of low launch stock numbers).
 
mahius said:
If Vega can solve both problems, pricing and providing good 4k performance... I'll be there day 1 (or as close to it as I can considering claims of low launch stock numbers).
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Considering how they priced the FuryX against the 980ti and 7970 before that, i wouldnt be expecting AMD to suddenly deploy a HBM2 super card at 1080 prices.
 
andybird123 said:
Considering how they priced the FuryX against the 980ti and 7970 before that, i wouldnt be expecting AMD to suddenly deploy a HBM2 super card at 1080 prices.
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They could get away with £550 if it's very similar to 1080 Ti performance. For the 8GB gaming card.

If they hit £500 it'll sell very very well I'd assume, unless it's barely faster than a 1080.

There's also a TimeSpy benchmark floating around which says it's the Frontier card running at 1600 MHz. Shows a 25% IPC improvement over Hawaii, which is plausible since Polaris is 10-15% higher IPC.

If the gaming card is running at more than 1600 MHz, and also has 25% higher IPC, then they could still clutch victory.
 
AllBodies said:
They could get away with £550 if it's very similar to 1080 Ti performance. For the 8GB gaming card.

If they hit £500 it'll sell very very well I'd assume, unless it's barely faster than a 1080.

There's also a TimeSpy benchmark floating around which says it's the Frontier card running at 1600 MHz. Shows a 25% IPC improvement over Hawaii, which is plausible since Polaris is 10-15% higher IPC.

If the gaming card is running at more than 1600 MHz, and also has 25% higher IPC, then they could still clutch victory.
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Hbm2 cards will be costing more to produce than gddr cards. If it beats the 1080ti and going from recent history, they wont be trying to undercut nvidia pricing. If its not as fast then they will have to but consequently making thinner margins on a more costly to produce part. And/or they are already warning of short supply so retailers will milk it if AMD dont.
 
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Steampunk said:
1. Wccftech link, so probably total fantasy.

2. Tape out can easily be six months before a product launch even if there is only one revision. There's no way we are going to see 7nm Navi six months after Vega.
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Zen 2 isn't due until 2019 so you're right, even if they tape out this year we won't be seeing them for a while. Navi might actually launch between Zen+ and Zen 2 though.
 
andybird123 said:
Hbm2 cards will be costing more to produce than gddr cards. If it beats the 1080ti and going from recent history, they wont be trying to undercut nvidia pricing. If its not as fast then they will have to but consequently making thinner margins on a more costly to produce part. And/or they are already warning of short supply so retailers will milk it if AMD dont.
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Pretty much sum`s it up really similar performance to 1080ti same price point. Less performance and trying to make a profit with HBM2 is going to be a problem.
 
I'm waiting till next year when we'll be able to use 4K HDR TVs at 120 Hz with HDMI 2.1

Either that'll be the best thing to buy, or the monitor manufacturers will have to compete on price. The current monitor prices compared to TVs are laughable, and the only real reason they can get away with it is because HDMI2.0 is stuck at 60Hz
 
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