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AMD - What can they do to improve?

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Ah well I've made my point (which was in response to people's "AMD will do this to Titan X" claims) so we'll leave it at that.

Until next time.
 
Mal X said:
and if they dont do this they've had it, the problem they have is people will be worried and concerned about it, regardless of improved efficiency.................Mr Average doesn't give a damn about all the specs, he only wants to know the simple stuff and 12GB sounds far better than 4GB.

this is not a time for trying out new tech on a hard nosed customer... esp after the 970 fiasco..... AMD need to back pedal and fit last years 8GB.....................4GB of RAM right now is almost like a swear word, steer well clear of it :eek:

put the 4GB HBW on a much smaller card and just try it out there first
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Mr average doesn't spend Titan prices on graphics cards :D

Regardless of 12gb vs 4gb.

But I would be very surprised if the 390 didn't come with 8gb standard.
 
Bluntwrapped said:
Nvidia market themselves as a premium brand, AMD don't. In this day and age of micro celebrity culture, psychological conditioning says we should have the latest and greatest as a symbol of status and self importance. People will happily pay a premium for a premium product. This is exactly why Apple have the vast majority of the market share over manufacturers like Samsung who also produce very good hardware. Samsung use cheap plastic shells, Apple use brushed aluminium and sapphire glass screens. The hardware we buy is a reflection of the above and our want/need of a luxurious lifestyle. It's a horribly shallow thing but it sums up human nature rather well.
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So true of the majority.
 
How can it even be a conversation when the 290x is half the price of a Titan and wins in more games than it loses? And talking about "oh no, we play at 1080p blabla" is irrelevant because even if you don't have a 4K monitor there's always downscaling available. Plus, who the hell spends $1000 to play at 1080p?! Why not compare benchmarks at 720p if you're at it. Nor does the argument that because it's under 60fps means it's unplayable hold. Quite clearly, as evidenced by millions of gamers on consoles, people don't mind so long as it's >30 fps. Hell, that's what I'm playing Witcher 2 at right now because I'm squeezing maximum graphical fidelity from it and it doesn't matter so long as it's a steady 30.

So if your point was that Titan X won't repeat Titan's fate because Titan's fate wasn't that it was beaten by the 290x then you're clearly wrong on the latter part. As for the former, only way to tell is once it arrives but there's nothing to indicate that the pricing will be different. Nvidia's banking on its brand so it can charge >$1k again, and AMD's gonna rely on its superior price/performance.
 
the only thing i wanrt from AMD is a UEFI BIOS that works on any system i have ever had. i always have to go back to IGPU to use BIOS
 
I can see why people have become hooked on DRAM capacity for higher res applications but I think you might find that with HBM it's not nearly so much of an issue, purely because of the bandwidth involved.

If GDDR5 can't saturate PCIE 3 - What can HBM at 5 times the bandwidth deliver?

Time will tell I guess.
 
Poneros said:
and AMD's gonna rely on its superior price/performance.
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And that is the whole point of this thread... Relying on price is not working for AMD, so what can they change to be able to improve their margins

For example, launching freesync monitors "in January" and not having the drivers ready until nearly April, it just makes them look like jokers, you are better off not saying any kind of release date and then get everything released at the same time, working
 
Geck0 said:
I can see why people have become hooked on DRAM capacity for higher res applications but I think you might find that with HBM it's not nearly so much of an issue, purely because of the bandwidth involved.

If GDDR5 can't saturate PCIE 3 - What can HBM at 5 times the bandwidth deliver?

Time will tell I guess.
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I hope this is the case tbh. AMD engineers aren't stupid. If they can get less of a memory capacity bottleneck using HBM then they wouldn't go with 4GB for their flagship product.

The 'leaks' so far are encouraging if anywhere *near* true!! :cool:

I can't wait for June!! :D
 
Geck0 said:
I can see why people have become hooked on DRAM capacity for higher res applications but I think you might find that with HBM it's not nearly so much of an issue, purely because of the bandwidth involved.

If GDDR5 can't saturate PCIE 3 - What can HBM at 5 times the bandwidth deliver?

Time will tell I guess.
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Problem is currently that sloppy console ports that were optomised to run on PS4 / Xbone with their 8GB of Vram, not coded for PC release then we get all kinda nonsense trying to turn on the bells and whistles.

However i foresee this changing drastically with a few things, but mainly due to Microsoft having Xbone devs code on a Win 11 platform as it eases them into coding for DX12 on the Xbone. So basically they will be designing portions of the game on a Windows 11 PC then porting to the console, which i would hope means it leaves room for them to code extra bells and whistles into the PC release and also means future releases on both platforms faster.
 
Push Freesync compatibility into TVs before November in time for Steam Box launch.

Today Nvidia are in 51.83% of Steam user's pcs while AMD appear at 28.6%.
 
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