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AMD - What can they do to improve?

setter said:
Having owned both 3770k and 4770k, in a few benchmarks I ran I found the hw chip at 4.2 matched the ivy at 4.5 with sli 670's. From a gaming point, there's no noticeable difference between the two. Or the 4790k for that matter as I've owned a few if theese too. I tend to do some rather daft cpu "upgrades".:o:D
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:) I would say the difference in real world between a overclocked 3770k and overclocked 4770K would be minimal as you say. Certainly not worth the upgrade for me. My next upgrade cpu wise will be 8 core unless Intel or Amd produce something 4 core which is significantly faster than my 3770k.
 
win8.1 said:
:) I would say the difference in real world between a overclocked 3770k and overclocked 4770K would be minimal as you say. Certainly not worth the upgrade for me. My next upgrade cpu wise will be 8 core unless Intel or Amd produce something 4 core which is significantly faster than my 3770k.
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I've no idea what AMD's cpu range will bring, but on intels mainstream it will be broadwell k on 1150. Expected 10% increase over current gen haswell, followed later by skylake on a new socket. Rumoured 25% increase.
 
JediFragger said:
Yup, although I don't own it schoolie!! ;) :D
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If you can still see my messages maybe you would like to show me some game benchmarks in games you do play. You know how you are going on about how high powered your system is and saying that mine is low/mid range. Maybe you could prove that by giving the game benchmarks instead of just saying it.
 
setter said:
I've no idea what AMD's cpu range will bring, but on intels mainstream it will be broadwell k on 1150. Expected 10% increase over current gen haswell, followed later by skylake on a new socket. Rumoured 25% increase.
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If Intel can produce a 8 core with good overclocking and £300 that may be my next cpu upgrade. Might be a bit of a wait. :)
 
They need to release an 8800GT/GTX460/HD7850 card.

Not a rebranded 290.

I think their marketing is pretty amateur, and fairly childish to boot. It's like they're aiming squarely at people with a mental age of 13 :/

They also talk a whole lot, rubbish the competition a whole lot, then fail to deliver themselves. Which is comical.
 
They were on the ropes before with the 2900XT and HD3870.

Then they launched the 4870 and smashed the competition and offered a 100% performance jump over the 3870 for under £200.

AMD need another 4870 moment, the 7800 cards nearly did this but the 7900 cards fell short.
 
Its all in the marketing and Amd suck at it. Their cards are every bit as good as Nvidia but don't sound attractive to your average buyer. Amd Msi Radeon R9 290/X or Nvidia MSI GeForce GTX 980 Gaming Edition, now which sounds better to your average punter. Classic example: Nvidia MSI GeForce GTX 750Ti Gaming OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card @ £119.99 OR Amd MSI Radeon R7 260X OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card @£89.99, these cards are very close performance wise but the Amd is way cheaper. To be honest the Nvidia card probably outsells the Amd card tenfold or more, why because it looks and sounds better to the buyer. In my opinion Amd made a big mistake going with Amd Radeon it just doesn't grab you like Nvidia Geforce GTX followed by a bigger number. You get my drift. Amd need to come up with a fantastic new name for their graphics cards, one which will grab the attention of your average buyer. :D
 
rolypolyman said:
Its all in the marketing and Amd suck at it. Their cards are every bit as good as Nvidia but don't sound attractive to your average buyer. Amd Msi Radeon R9 290/X or Nvidia MSI GeForce GTX 980 Gaming Edition, now which sounds better to your average punter. Classic example: Nvidia MSI GeForce GTX 750Ti Gaming OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card @ £119.99 OR Amd MSI Radeon R7 260X OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card @£89.99, these cards are very close performance wise but the Amd is way cheaper. To be honest the Nvidia card probably outsells the Amd card tenfold or more, why because it looks and sounds better to the buyer. In my opinion Amd made a big mistake going with Amd Radeon it just doesn't grab you like Nvidia Geforce GTX followed by a bigger number. You get my drift. Amd need to come up with a fantastic new name for their graphics cards, one which will grab the attention of your average buyer. :D
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That's a really good point. It makes less difference up in the 290s vs 970s as most shoppers are enthusiasts or at least research it a bit, but for lower level system builders (or laptop buyers)... yeah AMD Radeon R9 260 Zzzzzzzzzz *yawn* doesn't have the same zing as Nvidia GTX 9xx.

This is a really good thread. OP should make up a copyright post for us and get the AMD people hereabouts to take (expensive) notes.
 
Jamielicious said:
They were on the ropes before with the 2900XT and HD3870.

Then they launched the 4870 and smashed the competition and offered a 100% performance jump over the 3870 for under £200.

AMD need another 4870 moment, the 7800 cards nearly did this but the 7900 cards fell short.
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In terms of GPU's the only genuine wow moment I remember was when I ordered ATI's 9700pro on release, the thing was genuinely twice as quick as anything out there and then some with all the candy turned up. At the time you could turn everything up to 11 at any resolution and off it went. It was the chip that made the competition sit up re-asses what was possible. I don't remember buying anything from either camp since then that was such a step forward in fact the only exception I can think of is the introduction of ssd's.

What I would love to see from AMD is a hark back to the 9500/9700 or those old k7's that we all loved to clock the nuts off of. Something totally new and something that keeps the competition honest. Back in the day there was nothing that could touch a barton 2500+ in the value for money stakes. We need more chips just like that one, reasonable priced chips that go like stink. From a technical standpoint and given it's resources AMD can deliver but they had a big problem and that was simply money. That landscape has been slowly changing for them with the global foundries venture back in 2008/09 and AMD is finally starting to turn a profit.

Perhaps rather than the huge cuts that AMD have been making to their global workforce over the past 4 years it would be nice to see them start putting those profits to good use, growing the business and giving us the innovation that we have seen from them in the past.
 
AMD have a huge chance to get media coverage. Computex is where they will showcase the new hardware, then 2 weeks later they should use E3 to get their name behind big name game releases.
 
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