AMD Zen 2 (Refresh) 3900XT/3800XT/3600XT

Doobedoo · 18 Jun 2020 at 13:08

Richdog said:
It likely will not be any faster at higher detail and resolutions (1440p and above) where the CPU is largely removed as the limitation.

Yep most are aware of that.

bells · 18 Jun 2020 at 20:13

Richdog said:

Aye but they never have the quoted prices that posters quote on here

BS Dave · 18 Jun 2020 at 21:02

Participant said:
I don't think they expected many people to buy them.

This was more a case of maintaining the perceived value of Zen 2 so that Zen 3 doesn't look massively more expensive vs. Zen 2 when it comes out 20% more expensive than non-refresh Ryzen 3000 parts are going for now.

AMD will sell some of these, but that's the real value of these XT models.

I hope I can get a 4700x for less than the 3800xt is going for otherwise I might end up staying put. £550 plus for a CPU and motherboard is not the good deal I was hoping for

Journey · 18 Jun 2020 at 21:10

BS Dave said:
I hope I can get a 4700x for less than the 3800xt is going for otherwise I might end up staying put. £550 plus for a CPU and motherboard is not the good deal I was hoping for

Will be interesting to see if AMD bother to segment the 3700X-3800X again. I have a feeling they did that due to the variability of chip quality when they were first launched, and won't have the same limitations with the 4xxx series. Would actually be nice to see a low end non-X 8c/16t part again, like the 2700 was.

five8five · 19 Jun 2020 at 10:35

So the rumoured IF raise definitely isn't happening?

Richdog · 19 Jun 2020 at 10:40

Atfer seeing all of the reviews on the 3300X, I have decided to get one of these instead of a 3600 to tide me over until Zen3. The gaming performance is phenomenal for the money (£110 where I live)! https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...hz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-3c0-am.html

M1k3H · 19 Jun 2020 at 10:50

Richdog said:
Atfer seeing all of the reviews on the 3300X, I have decided to get one of these instead of a 3600 to tide me over until Zen3. The gaming performance is phenomenal for the money (£110 where I live)! https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...hz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-3c0-am.html

For £110 it makes sense. Was going to go for the 3300x as well. As you said, great performance for gaming, only a couple of percentage points away from higher core CPUs. I managed to get the 3600 for £148 (inc. shipping) which compared to £130 (inc shipping) for the 3300x made me pull the trigger on the 3600.

Richdog · 19 Jun 2020 at 11:01

M1k3H said:
For £110 it makes sense. Was going to go for the 3300x as well. As you said, great performance for gaming, only a couple of percentage points away from higher core CPUs. I managed to get the 3600 for £148 (inc. shipping) which compared to £130 (inc shipping) for the 3300x made me pull the trigger on the 3600.

Yeah, just imagine what kind of budget gaming builds we can recommend to people later this year when the new gen GPU's are released. The performance per £ for a budget build will be very strong.

Journey · 19 Jun 2020 at 12:11

How does £330 for a 3800XT sound? Seems that the pricing isn't as bad as predicted, still would take a £250 3700X though, if on a tight budget.

Shac · 19 Jun 2020 at 12:14

@Journey

So you would rather take a £250 3700X over a £30 3800 XT? :confused:

Journey · 19 Jun 2020 at 12:20

Shac said:
@Journey

So you would rather take a £250 3700X over a £30 3800 XT?

Damn phone, and the predictive text.

BongoHunter · 19 Jun 2020 at 12:22

I'm thinking 3300x would make a great CPU upgrade for my NAS/Server box - currently using a Pentium G4560 so would be a decent amount of performance to gain - look like great value compared to the 3600, need to think about 1600AF as well though I suppose

Minstadave · 19 Jun 2020 at 12:29

Prices don't look terrible tbh.

Relentless81 · 19 Jun 2020 at 12:43

Still debating upgrading my 2600X to a 3600XT, the itch is there but my sensible side says I wont notice any difference in gaming at 1440P with a Vega 56 and just keep my money until the 4000 series hits and put the money toward RDNA2. Its a constant argument in my mind.

Richdog · 19 Jun 2020 at 12:46

Relentless81 said:
Still debating upgrading my 2600X to a 3600XT, the itch is there but my sensible side says I wont notice any difference in gaming at 1440P with a Vega 56 and just keep my money until the 4000 series hits and put the money toward RDNA2. Its a constant argument in my mind.

You will literally be throwing money away that could instead be better spent on a more powerful Zen3 or GPU.

Relentless81 · 19 Jun 2020 at 12:47

Richdog said:
You will literally be throwing money away that could instead be better spent on a more powerful Zen3 or GPU.

You mean 4000 series or 3800XT?

Richdog · 19 Jun 2020 at 12:52

Relentless81 said:
You mean 4000 series or 3800XT?

I mean spending money upgrading your 2600x to a 3xxx anything (although XT is the worst) before the new CPU's and CPU's hit later in the year would be a waste, as that is where the money can be better spent. If your 2600x does the job fine then just hold on to it and wait a few months.

Relentless81 · 19 Jun 2020 at 12:54

Richdog said:
I mean spending money upgrading your 2600x to a 3xxx anything will be before the new CPU's and CPU's hit later in the year.

Ah fair enough if its this year I thought it was next year, thanks

Ayahuasca · 19 Jun 2020 at 13:52

Prices already looking a bit more sensible, may bite if I can get a deal on a 3800XT <£300.

Paul_RD · 19 Jun 2020 at 20:47

I'm thinking of moving my current 3600X out of my main PC and into a second PC build that I'm currently building.
This would allow me to consider an upgrade to a 3700X or 3800X.
Any suggestions on what is best or should I wait for the next AMD CPU's to be released?