AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

ARMA III on high end Intel CPUs is significantly faster compared to Ryzen 2000,so the jump with Ryzen 3000 is significant,as its an example of a game,people tend to use Intel CPUs for.

 

[d_brennen]

We have lift off!

Nomnom... Haribo too

 

[Kashinoda]

I will and am considering AMD. ARMA 3 is about as tough a single threaded test as there is. I don't understand why AMD's CPU topology is an issue.
Arma 3 is a really popular game, came out six years ago (enough time to build a CPU that can get good performance out of it) and exemplifies the difference between turgid console ports and PC gaming.

All I expect is parity rather than a late to the party approximation but 10-15% slower. Racing sims, Flight sims, Arma 3 are the types of game that demand the most out of CPUs and if AMD
can't cut it then I'm not interested. I'm GPU limited in everything else at 4K.
I think there's been a patch since that video but a difference of 35fps to 55fps at 4K in Arma 3 means more to me than a CS:GO jump from 250 to 290 fps at 1080.
To me it suggests there's a fundamental flaw in the architecture of AMD CPUs.

If the newest Ryzen 3000 CPUs still run 10-25% slower than Intel CPUs in Arma 3 or racing sims (against an Intel CPU architecture that hasn't progressed substantially in six years) or even 10% then it begs the question wtf have AMD been doing all this time?

Well there you go Jacky, 22% 28% performance increase.

This has the first ARMA III test I have seen on Ryzen 3000:
https://www.planet3dnow.de/cms/wp-content/gallery/amd-ryzen-3000/d24.png

A massive jump in performance over the previous generation!

 

[willhub]

I need to downgrade from 4k and 1440 p to use my CPU

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Well there you go Jacky, 22% performance increase.

Its more than that!! Its 28% for the Ryzen 7 3700X and 24% for the Ryzen 9 3900X!

 

[wookiee87]

Finally got my 3900x up and running today, had a load of problems with bsod and lock ups as decided to do a fresh install of Winders. Problem was it was a 2015 version, so ryzen unaware. Eventually sorted that and now seems stable, but not seeing it boosting properly. 4325 on a single core is the most I'm seeing... is this normal?

yeah 4.35ghz on sigle core at stock is normal, the bios of most x570 boards arnt working properly with boost clocks yet, this will only get better but best to wait until a conformed bios works as it should, i have my 3900x overclocked on all cores at 4350mhz at 1.2875v at the moment keeping a close eye for a new bios so i can get 4.6ghz eventually, but for now 12 cores at 4.35ghz wipes the floor with everything XD

 

[KungFuSpaghetti]

yeah 4.35ghz on sigle core at stock is normal, the bios of most x570 boards arnt working properly with boost clocks yet, this will only get better but best to wait until a conformed bios works as it should, i have my 3900x overclocked on all cores at 4350mhz at 1.2875v at the moment keeping a close eye for a new bios so i can get 4.6ghz eventually, but for now 12 cores at 4.35ghz wipes the floor with everything XD

I'm on Asrock x470 Taichi (bios 3.43), so not sure if that's affected too.

 

[Kashinoda]

Its more than that!! Its 28% for the Ryzen 7 3700X and 24% for the Ryzen 9 3900X!

I've failed at basic maths there, this is what waiting for the 3700X does to a man

 

[chroniclard]

yeah 4.35ghz on sigle core at stock is normal, the bios of most x570 boards arnt working properly with boost clocks yet, this will only get better but best to wait until a conformed bios works as it should, i have my 3900x overclocked on all cores at 4350mhz at 1.2875v at the moment keeping a close eye for a new bios so i can get 4.6ghz eventually, but for now 12 cores at 4.35ghz wipes the floor with everything XD

Nice voltage too. What cooling have you got and temps are you seeing?

 

[stoke1863]

Anyone here running on a B450m Mortar? Did the bios flash last night, awaiting delivery of the 3700x tomorrow, first Amd CPU since Atholn II

 

[Buffalo2102]

Me? this one - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...3600mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-my-08q-tg.html

I pre-ordered that kit and now it's gone down in price.

 

[wookiee87]

Nice voltage too. What cooling have you got and temps are you seeing?

custom 360mm 45mm thick rad and max temp is 75 degrees which is a lot better than auto volts (1.45v) hitting 90 degrees before

 

[Kashinoda]

Anyone here running on a B450m Mortar? Did the bios flash last night, awaiting delivery of the 3700x tomorrow, first Amd CPU since Atholn II

Not yet, will be arriving tomorrow with my 3700X so we can setup a support group. Also my first AMD CPU since Athlon!

Which RAM did you go with?

 

[wookiee87]

I'm on Asrock x470 Taichi (bios 3.43), so not sure if that's affected too.

give it time all am4 x370, x470 and x570 will get bios updates so the cpu should all hit rated boost clocks, as ever time is the key factor

 

[RavenXXX2]

If you do have AMD CPUs, any chance you could test them out on CEMU so we can get a decent measure of the IPC increase in single threaded performance?

Blown away by the 3600 in cemu and BOTW. A good 30 FPS boost over a 4Ghz 2400G and it never goes below 60 FPS anywhere with a 1660ti at 1440p wheres the 2400G would go sub 50 FPS in villages and with big explosions.

 

[KungFuSpaghetti]

give it time all am4 x370, x470 and x570 will get bios updates so the cpu should all hit rated boost clocks, as ever time is the key factor

Well that's a bonus, because it's already miles quicker in every game I've tested!

 

[wookiee87]

just entered the bios of my asus formula x570 and had a play with ram speed my quad set of dominator rgb's (3600mhz stock) have just hit 3733mhz @1.375v 18,19,19,39 1t, on a 3:56 divider started up cinebench r20 and hit 7633 points over all (around 2200 points highter than my oc 7900x - performance boggles the mind)

 

[chroniclard]

custom 360mm 45mm thick rad and max temp is 75 degrees which is a lot better than auto volts (1.45v) hitting 90 degrees before

Cool, I have done similar on my 2700X, albeit 4.125 all core and 1.27v (standard with boosting they hit 1.5v).

Preferred the lower all core clock to boost, plus lower temps and noise.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I've failed at basic maths there, this is what waiting for the 3700X does to a man

I wish I was waiting for a Ryzen 7 3700X too!!

Also looking at that other post you quoted,ARMA III got a big patch last year and AMD Ryzen 2000 got quite close clock for clock in ARMA III according to HUB,but Intel could run at much higher clockspeeds. Also some games people might play won't get CPU performance patches,and people don't realise since the Intel core design has not progressed so far for years,it means these games were optimised years ago for the core and cache layout. Intel has basically been adding "moar cores" to the basic Skylake 6000 series design for years,and only really made big changes to the IGP.

An example of a game which is not optimised is Fallout 4 - the last CPU core design it has been patched for is apparently Skylake,and even then Skylake X changed the cache design and used the interconnect,and the game hates it so much its even slower than Ryzen in the game apparently!

 

[teppic]

These posts are making it hard for me to keep my self promise not to upgrade until next month.