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easyrider · 15 Jul 2019 at 13:08

andy_mk3 said:
Have a little read of this before you call BS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/commen...yzen/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

There is no mention of manually setting the vcore to 1.5 v

I’ll take advice from der8auer....he’s already asked AMD about the 3900x boost claim of 4.6ghz something he cannot achieve...just go watch is 3900x videos.

andy_mk3 · 15 Jul 2019 at 13:11

Sin_Chase said:
This is why Easy Rider is on my ignore list. Comments like his which are just idle speculation rather than digesting facts from the actual company. (whether you choose to believe them or not)

Yeah he's back on my list again now. Theres just no need.

I think AMD's point is that high voltage is fine in low load scenarios as with a small load there's a small amount of current going through the CPU. With high loads across many cores there's a lot more current which is when the voltage drops, and where 1.4-1.5v is not a good thing. Hence the recommendation of 1.325v all core and 1.4-1.5v light loads being perfectly ok.

Nghtmare · 15 Jul 2019 at 13:11

As far as I am aware is heat that kills CPU and not voltage, however they seem to go hand in hand since increasing voltage has a big impact on temps the higher you go.

Zeed · 15 Jul 2019 at 13:12

belcebuu said:
What's the point of 4133 if that will give you a 2:1 and higher latency? I though the optimum is 3600hz for 1:1

point is you buy 4133 kit to run 3600 with super tight timings ?? If i got more money to burn i wuld be on 4500mhz kit to run it at 3600 cl13 or something.

willhub · 15 Jul 2019 at 13:22

Nghtmare said:
As far as I am aware is heat that kills CPU and not voltage, however they seem to go hand in hand since increasing voltage has a big impact on temps the higher you go.

It's the opposite these sort of parts don't degrade because they're running at 88 degrees. Its voltage but if AMD say the 1.5 for low load is fine I'm ok with it so long as they give me a free upgrade to 3900x and this x570 taichi if my CPU dies

easyrider · 15 Jul 2019 at 13:27

willhub said:
It's the opposite these sort of parts don't degrade because they're running at 88 degrees. Its voltage but if AMD say the 1.5 for low load is fine I'm ok with it so long as they give me a free upgrade to 3900x and this x570 taichi if my CPU dies

All the reviewers I’ve researched said 1.4 at a push 1.45

Robert896r1 · 15 Jul 2019 at 13:34

easyrider said:
All the reviewers I’ve researched said 1.4 at a push 1.45

You're purposely ignoring the official statement that holds up in a legal case and taking the word of reviewers which hold no weight instead?

Journey · 15 Jul 2019 at 13:34

easyrider said:
All the reviewers I’ve researched said 1.4 at a push 1.45

You know the person that posted the link to the Reddit thread? Well if you read who it was written by you'd have seen the following.

"Posted byu/AMD_Robert
Technical Marketing4 days ago"

That would be Robert Hallock of AMD https://www.linkedin.com/in/rthallock Senior Technical Marketing Manager.

chroniclard · 15 Jul 2019 at 13:38

Exactly the same as previous Ryzens, those can also use 1.5V+ when boosting.

easyrider · 15 Jul 2019 at 13:46

Robert896r1 said:
You're purposely ignoring the official statement that holds up in a legal case and taking the word of reviewers which hold no weight instead?

Once they answer the claimed 4.6ghz boost clocks on the 3900x I’ll reserve my judgement

Not one 3900x boosts to the advertised clocks....

chroniclard · 15 Jul 2019 at 13:49

easyrider said:
Once they answer the claimed 4.6ghz boost clocks on the 3900x I’ll reserve my judgement

Not one 3900x boosts to the advertised clocks....

We have a few on here boosting to that.

easyrider · 15 Jul 2019 at 13:56

chroniclard said:
We have a few on here boosting to that.

chroniclard · 15 Jul 2019 at 13:59

easyrider said:

At work cba watching a video, whats it got to do with people on here?

Robert896r1 · 15 Jul 2019 at 14:01

easyrider said:
Once they answer the claimed 4.6ghz boost clocks on the 3900x I’ll reserve my judgement

Not one 3900x boosts to the advertised clocks....

You've completely side stepped the question.

easyrider · 15 Jul 2019 at 14:02

chroniclard said:
At work cba watching a video, whats it got to do with people on here?

If you conveniently cba to watch it...then what’s the point in discussing it...

easyrider · 15 Jul 2019 at 14:03

Robert896r1 said:
You've completely side stepped the question.

So the consensus right now is to manually set the vcore to 1.5 v for an all core overclock?

Ok...lol

chroniclard · 15 Jul 2019 at 14:07

easyrider said:
If you conveniently cba to watch it...then what’s the point in discussing it...

A quick explanation would be good, I cba because I have no speakers at work and cant be bothered hunting for headphones.

easyrider · 15 Jul 2019 at 14:11

chroniclard said:
A quick explanation would be good, I cba because I have no speakers at work and cant be bothered hunting for headphones.

Read the comments

Thekwango · 15 Jul 2019 at 14:14

chroniclard said:
A quick explanation would be good, I cba because I have no speakers at work and cant be bothered hunting for headphones.

here ya go - the crux of it was that der8auer couldn't get the cpu to maintain or even reach it's stated boost speed.

der8auer 18 hours ago
Side Note: I also tested Geekbench 4, CPU-Z Single Test and Unigine Superposition but the results were identical to the other charts so I didn't include them in the video. Also in those tests the CPU would not boost to 4.6 GHz. Only CPU-Z Single Test was close with 4550 MHz for about 1-2 seconds.

Robert896r1 · 15 Jul 2019 at 14:15

easyrider said:
So the consensus right now is to manually set the vcore to 1.5 v for an all core overclock?

Ok...lol

So you haven't read the official statement.

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