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I swapped out my gtx 980 for a 1080ti today and now my cpu vcore has gone up. it now idles at 1.48v
This is normal
Updated to the Gigabyte F5K BIOS and now get my best Cinebench scores so far. Multicore 4801 and single core 507. Seems combined with the latest chipset drivers it's working very well. This is all on auto for the CPU and 32GB C14 memory. Very pleased.
AB bioses i posted here they are ******* TERRIBLE bugged more than anything.
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?102858-Asus-Strix-X470-F-Gaming-owners-thread/page130
Finished testing calculator settings
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Well that's disappointing. 400% HCI stable but still ram freezing.
I'm gonna give the dram calculator another go.
This 8 pack memory sticks are they single or dual rank?
I'm gonna give the dram calculator another go.
This 8 pack memory sticks are they single or dual rank?
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single rank
If ya freezing You need more soc voltage give it a tick or 2 I had to move from 1.1 to 1.112 that fixed up freezes and gpu driver crash when heavy load benching.
@humbug spot on
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Yes installed via internet flash on my X470 Prime Pro. Definitely works better with the new chipset drivers now. On Ryzen Master I'm getting lower voltages, before it was locked to around 1.45v with the new chipset drivers.
Yes, but they will function differently (they will be slower in latency-sensitive workloads), and for that reason it would be in AMD's best interests to not do it.
Though I guess it's no different than releasing a GPU using two different memory types, different memory bus widths and different compute unit counts or frequencies, and claiming them to be the same product ... and both AMD and NVIDIA are guilty of this.
In short, don't put it past them to be idiots.
Anyone heard reports of testing on it yet outside the ASUS forum thread?
People in there arnt the brightest bunch ive seen, but there does seem to be some complaints around RAM as a result of the latest.
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Silver lining to my ram freezes is that I downloaded the Ryzen Dram calculator and it showed me that 3733MHz is doable. Windows boots and I can play games.
As for timings I did it a dirty and quick way. I didn't bother to put all the sub timings etc in just the essentials.
16 16 16 16 32 @ 3733MHz @ 1.4v
So far as I mentioned I had a quick game and it seems fine. Time will tell. I've lost faith in HCI as it proved to me that spending hours to pass 400% means nothing if after a few hours you still get freezes in game.
@Zeed For now I've left SOC voltage as is. I'll keep it in mind and bump it if needed.
If I just play with dram voltage and soc voltage and not touch anything else, do I have a change of getting this 100% stable at 3733MHz?
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Side note. Remember how much difficulty I was having with my 2700x and getting DOCP 3200MHz working? Well it was the BIOS all along. The last BIOS Asus released for my board allowed me to set DOCP and gain 100% stability. Now look at me aiming for 3733MHz!!
As for timings I did it a dirty and quick way. I didn't bother to put all the sub timings etc in just the essentials.
16 16 16 16 32 @ 3733MHz @ 1.4v
So far as I mentioned I had a quick game and it seems fine. Time will tell. I've lost faith in HCI as it proved to me that spending hours to pass 400% means nothing if after a few hours you still get freezes in game.
@Zeed For now I've left SOC voltage as is. I'll keep it in mind and bump it if needed.
If I just play with dram voltage and soc voltage and not touch anything else, do I have a change of getting this 100% stable at 3733MHz?
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Side note. Remember how much difficulty I was having with my 2700x and getting DOCP 3200MHz working? Well it was the BIOS all along. The last BIOS Asus released for my board allowed me to set DOCP and gain 100% stability. Now look at me aiming for 3733MHz!!
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That's why I dont do auto... They are all ****** up cause bioses are in beta state. I noticed on 3rd row of memory timings on auto 2 values tend to change every other reset by 1 up 1 down !!!! So one reboot you are running 9 other 8 other 7 so if 7 and 8 are stable oens and 7 is too tight then you got stable system 2/3ds of time grreat init ??Silver lining to my ram freezes is that I downloaded the Ryzen Dram calculator and it showed me that 3733MHz is doable. Windows boots and I can play games.
As for timings I did it a dirty and quick way. I didn't bother to put all the sub timings etc in just the essentials.
16 16 16 16 32 @ 3733MHz @ 1.4v
So far as I mentioned I had a quick game and it seems fine. Time will tell. I've lost faith in HCI as it proved to me that spending hours to pass 400% means nothing if after a few hours you still get freezes in game.
@Zeed For now I've left SOC voltage as is. I'll keep it in mind and bump it if needed.
If I just play with dram voltage and soc voltage and not touch anything else, do I have a change of getting this 100% stable at 3733MHz?
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Side note. Remember how much difficulty I was having with my 2700x and getting DOCP 3200MHz working? Well it was the BIOS all along. The last BIOS Asus released for my board allowed me to set DOCP and gain 100% stability. Now look at me aiming for 3733MHz!!
how about overclockers.net all of us tried AB and after 1-2 days went back to 1.0.0.2 cause they run crap in comparrison
and all of us there testing bioses sincce first alpha ones on Zen1 lolhow is memory training after reboot ?? And how is memory trainign booting from cold ?? Maybe they fixed them up a bit cause none of bioses for Crosshair motherboards made it out of forums they ware so bad. Image ME having boot problems first time from 4 bioses so far
So maybe This is fixed up version after bugs we reported Even performance hit was around 4% on new ones yet less stable on memory side Crap in comparison how?how about overclockers.net all of us tried AB and after 1-2 days went back to 1.0.0.2 cause they run crap in comparrison
My main concern right now is if the sleep bug is fixed.
I wriote 3 posts about this. Stability is also WORSE I'm around 100points in cb20also loosing points in geekbench
reposting
The chipset drivers are mainly to combat the Destiny 2 errors, that's why AMD have only linked it on their blog rather than the support section.
Unless you play Destiny 2 then there is no point, however you should still install the new Ryzen Power Plan if you're bothered about idle voltages (part of the same installer).
Info:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ck70nz/fyi_stop_the_fud_the_perf_degradations_have/
To quote myself, i just applied the new BIOS.Crap in comparison how?
My main concern right now is if the sleep bug is fixed.
First boot or two the BIOS thought that DOCP was on and set to my memory's speeds, but was reporting its actual wrong. A full boot into Windows solved that on the next go into then BIOS.
After a singular test, sleep appears fixed too!
Only bad thing is that Task Manager has lost its reporting on RAM speed, but that could be caused by the fact that i upgraded my RAM earlier today, so it may not be related.
There's also a new version of HWInfo out too, and it seems to be reporting things more inline with what Ryzen Master reports too.
I have the Prime X470 Pro, though still on Ryzen+ 2600X, and after updating to 5204 I'm still seeing that same sleep issue which appeared with the 3000 supporting Combo PI Bioses which is usually triggered by running Hwinfo sensor monitoring.
eg:
Boot from cold, send it to sleep, wake, ask it to shutdown, no issues. Behaves as it should.
However, boot from cold, run Hwinfo, send it to sleep, wake, check hwinfo and the sensor updates have frozen. Hwinfo subsequently won't close down properly or start up again; always waiting for a svhost.exe to respond.
After this, other monitoring software usually fails to access the sensors.
Only recourse is a reboot, though the system fails to power down properly. Need to hold in the power button to force the ATX power off signal.
A second interesting bug which appeared with Combo PI bioses for this board DOES appear to have been fixed, both with 6.09 and 6.1 versions of Hwinfo (12volt line always read as ~10volts). Hwinfo developer Martin informed Asus this was a bios bug a few months back. Seems they have at least fixed that.
A third interesting bug which appeared with Combo PI (as far as I can tell), also relating to sleep though a little less frequently seen, is an almost white screen on return from sleep and AFTER logging into Windows.
You can just make out a little of the desktop background but text is impossible to read so a reboot is again required to get things back into running order.
Not seen this one since updating to 5204, though probably just not given it enough time to rear up again.
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Just retested here and its still aparentely working again.
From what i can tell, everything appears to be working for me.
Its just Task Manager not reporting anything about my RAM, but i dont know what could be causing that, the BIOS update, or the new RAM...
How is your board getting on with RAM speeds and Ryzen 3K? Any difficulties hitting 3400~3600MT/s ?
I'm on the verge of ordering a Ryzen 3000 based kit for someone and might snag a 3600x for myself (they're cheaper at the moment and binning is probably worth the extra given likely better resale value / better included heatsink).