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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

I think the ryzen g series replaces the ryzen 3 myself dropping the ryzen 3 at x price point would allways be completion vs there 4core 8 thread 3400g and that cpu gives good value at that price point really

Oh yeah true I guess! Thats a good idea, I feel the G and 3 series should just be merged into one, a 4 core really isnt enough these days imo.
 
Who had thought that bringing a 6 core with hypertheading with great performance at under £200 would sell like hotcakes, if Intel refuse to drop prices and compete then all the better for AMD.

A 6 core no SMT 3500 for even cheeper, but what about the handful of games that cause it to turn into an unplayable stutterfest. :confused::D

Merging the 3 and G series into one, and then having a Ryzen 5 chips with no SMT should be the Ryzen 3 replacement! Leaving the lineup with something along the lines of this:

Ryzen 3/5 G series - 4c/4t and 4c/8t
Ryzen 5 low end - 6c/6t
Mainstream Ryzen 5 - 6c/12t
Ryzen 7 - 8c/16t
Ryzen 9 - 12c/24t and 16c/32t

Not too shabby a lineup is it!

I think preferably in the future the 3/G series should be 6c with the Ryzen 5 starting at 8c, Ryzen 7 at 12c and Ryzen 9 at 16c
 
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3000-boost-frequency-bios-fix,40308.html

BOOST FIXED

“AMD is pleased with the strong momentum of 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ processors in the PC enthusiast and gaming communities. We closely monitor community feedback on our products and understand that some 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen users are reporting boost clock speeds below the expected processor boost frequency. While processor boost frequency is dependent on many variables including workload, system design, and cooling solution, we have closely reviewed the feedback from our customers and have identified an issue in our firmware that reduces boost frequency in some situations. We are in the process of preparing a BIOS update for our motherboard partners that addresses that issue and includes additional boost performance optimizations. We will provide an update on September 10 to the community regarding the availability of the BIOS.”
 
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3000-boost-frequency-bios-fix,40308.html

BOOST FIXED

“AMD is pleased with the strong momentum of 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ processors in the PC enthusiast and gaming communities. We closely monitor community feedback on our products and understand that some 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen users are reporting boost clock speeds below the expected processor boost frequency. While processor boost frequency is dependent on many variables including workload, system design, and cooling solution, we have closely reviewed the feedback from our customers and have identified an issue in our firmware that reduces boost frequency in some situations. We are in the process of preparing a BIOS update for our motherboard partners that addresses that issue and includes additional boost performance optimizations. We will provide an update on September 10 to the community regarding the availability of the BIOS.”
Nice
 
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3000-boost-frequency-bios-fix,40308.html

BOOST FIXED

“AMD is pleased with the strong momentum of 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ processors in the PC enthusiast and gaming communities. We closely monitor community feedback on our products and understand that some 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen users are reporting boost clock speeds below the expected processor boost frequency. While processor boost frequency is dependent on many variables including workload, system design, and cooling solution, we have closely reviewed the feedback from our customers and have identified an issue in our firmware that reduces boost frequency in some situations. We are in the process of preparing a BIOS update for our motherboard partners that addresses that issue and includes additional boost performance optimizations. We will provide an update on September 10 to the community regarding the availability of the BIOS.”
Hmm, I thought it was pretty much decided it was expected behaviour (lowering the target temperature from ~80 to ~75 C)? Weird that AMD are actually saying that it's a bug.

If the UEFIs start appearing on 10/09 that means I might get mine by 10/11. >_>
 
We are in the process of preparing a BIOS update for our motherboard partners that addresses that issue and includes additional boost performance optimizations.

5ghz is here people. :D

But seriously, great that this is now been addressed.
 
Hmm, I thought it was pretty much decided it was expected behaviour (lowering the target temperature from ~80 to ~75 C)? Weird that AMD are actually saying that it's a bug.

If the UEFIs start appearing on 10/09 that means I might get mine by 10/11. >_>

Well I have an x370 Asus board so I might get mine after the release of Zen 5.
 
Hmm, I thought it was pretty much decided it was expected behaviour (lowering the target temperature from ~80 to ~75 C)? Weird that AMD are actually saying that it's a bug.

They did apparently do that but it shouldn't have effected the maximum boost, just how soon it starts to down clock.

Good to know there's a bug but it would've been nicer to have know sooner.
 
We closely monitor community feedback on our products and understand that some 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen users are reporting boost clock speeds below the expected processor boost frequency. While processor boost frequency is dependent on many variables including workload, system design, and cooling solution

This is bull$$$ excuse. Nominal or rated boost frequency as written on the box and in the specificantions doesn't rely on other variables. It's the minimum users must always be getting.
 
This is bull$$$ excuse. Nominal or rated boost frequency as written on the box and in the specificantions doesn't rely on other variables. It's the minimum users must always be getting.

And how would you go about that apart from selling a full system with no BIOS options?
 
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This is bull$$$ excuse. Nominal or rated boost frequency as written on the box and in the specificantions doesn't rely on other variables. It's the minimum users must always be getting.
You really have no idea what you're talking about. This has never been the case with Intel or AMD, as has been said to you before. Why aren't you complaining to Intel for the same reasons?

One should expect to hit boost clocks for sure, but not all the time.
 
This is bull$$$ excuse. Nominal or rated boost frequency as written on the box and in the specificantions doesn't rely on other variables. It's the minimum users must always be getting.

my 3900x box has a seal lable on it and only place it shows boost clock speed And it says 4.6ghz MAX Boost So its the most that people sould expect And its not a excuse other factors do come into it.

A mac book pro with a 6 core intel cpu will never hit max boost speed! and will throttle a lot due to the tiny tiny cooler they use.
now are intel to blame for apple noit hitting the max rated boost speed on there cpu or are apple?

yes a cpu sould get close to there max boost speeds if right conditions are meet? Does intel hit
boost speeds on suplied cooler? (no as they dont supply one)
does dell pc's all hit max boost speed on intel?
does apple hit boost speed on all procducts?

there are a lot of reasons why a cpu or gpu or even momory can't hit its rated speeds and lets hope on the 10th of september that amd do give us users the extra speed on our sihinny new cpu's[/QUOTE]
 
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my 3900x box has a seal lable on it and only place it shows boost clock speed And it says 4.6ghz MAX Boost So its the most that people sould expect And its not a excuse other factors do come into it.
A mac book pro with a 6 core intel part will never hit max boost spec and witll throttle a lot due to the tiny tiny cooler they use. are intel to blame for apple noit hitting the max rated boost speed or are apple?

yes a cpu sould get close to there max boost speeds if right conditions are meet? Does intel hit boost speeds on suplied cooler? (no as they dont suply one)
does dell pc's all hit max boost speed on intel?
does apple hit boost speed on all procducts?

there are a lot of reasons why even the mighty intel cant hit clock speeds and if amd have found a fault that effects most of us not hitting max speed then great but lets be honest im not going to argue over a couple of 100mhz on a single or couple of cores as its pointless anyhow:)
Mate. What on earth? I can only assume you're young.
 
Mate. What on earth? I can only assume you're young.[/QUOTE]

was giving reasons why max boost speeds not allways guaranteed

there are a lot of cpu's out there that dont hit there max boost speeds. and gave reasons why

and im 39 so not young!
 
But max boost speed should be available/achievable on all processors under standard conditions (within temperature limits, default BIOS settings, etc, etc) and that was not the case.

It should not be something that's only available/achievable to people using exotic cooling, with particular settings in the BIOS, using specific software (BIOS versions, Windows versions, driver versions), if there's not a heatwave, or if the winds blowing in the right direction.
 
Why aren't you complaining to Intel for the same reasons?

Because intel's CPUs always hit their advertised speeds.

AMD Ryzen 3000 lineup is complete failure for me.

Two rebrands with Vega graphics, two 3600X and 3800X chips that are not needed at all, and one 12-core offer that is below the expected silicon quality.
Which means out of seven offers, only two make any sense - 3600 and 3700X.

So, instead of properly binning all the chiplets and segmenting them in different products, they chose to put bins of different quality under the same moniker - the flagship 3900X.
 
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