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I appreciate you may not know this but does dual chiplets hold back cpu performance in any way ?
Not according to the leaked info. If anything it makes more sense now as the 12c had lower clock speeds than the 16c and if they are from defective dies then it makes more sense to downclock them over the 8c die.
 
Not according to the leaked info. If anything it makes more sense now as the 12c had lower clock speeds than the 16c and if they are from defective dies then it makes more sense to downclock them over the 8c die.

Thanks, I am looking at getting a 3700x all being well with them later in the year and assuming the supporting bios update.
 
I really enjoyed the keynote. Radeon 7 was underwelming, but I don’t think anyone was really expecting more. Ryzen however is looking interesting and shows real promise. I think, even with the lack of clock speed details, it is clear AMD can easily match Intel’s top chip, core for core.

The most interesting bit for me was the showing of the delidded CPU. There was no reason to reveal that at this stage other than to show that they are using a chiplet design and there is space for more. By showing their hand in this way they must be really confident that Intel are nowhere near being able to do something similar.

16 cores in this package size and power envelope will be very impressive. It probably won’t make much difference to gaming but will be really great for creative workloads.
 
Yes a 9900K getting equalled by a mid range engineering sample. Problem is you haven't shut up about the 9900K for the last 2 weeks. Really does sound a lot like buyers remorse.


No mate, sorry to disappoint. I'll be getting Zen 2 aswell as I'm loaded :p

I'll ditch 9900k in 7 months if Zen 2 is king....No problem , no remorse, no nothing...
 
So it’s now using half the power?

You just made that up


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I'm absolutely speachless. An unknown model of Ryzen 3000 CPU beats an i9 by a tiny amount and the Intel fanboys are finding excuses to defend their supposedly superior product. While the Cinebench scores are pretty much the same:

1. AMD did it with 30% less power
2. AMD did it with 92% less budget
3. AMD did it with 33.3% less generations (3rd gen vs 9th gen)
4. AMD probably did it with a lower clock frequency

It's mind blowing what AMD have done when you take all this into consideration.
I like this perspective :)
 
a amd chip beat or level with a intel chip in a benchmark. look at previous amd chips even current ones on cinebench then go look at real life game benchmarks see where that top end amd chip comes . below a lowly i5. people just bleating on about cinebench what about gaming where most here will be using it lol. cant wait for the launch gunna be some salty people when they realize they been amd hoodwinked yet again.
 
a amd chip beat or level with a intel chip in a benchmark. look at previous amd chips even current ones on cinebench then go look at real life game benchmarks see where that top end amd chip comes . below a lowly i5. people just bleating on about cinebench what about gaming where most here will be using it lol. cant wait for the launch gunna be some salty people when they realize they been amd hoodwinked yet again.
Given we don't know the frequency of the ES used, it could even be as low as 4GHz. If that's the case then it'll have the pure brute force to beat a 9900K in single threaded gaming even with it optimised for Intel. Then who's gonna be the salty ones...
 
a amd chip beat or level with a intel chip in a benchmark. look at previous amd chips even current ones on cinebench then go look at real life game benchmarks see where that top end amd chip comes . below a lowly i5. people just bleating on about cinebench what about gaming where most here will be using it lol. cant wait for the launch gunna be some salty people when they realize they been amd hoodwinked yet again.

Not when they have paid £200 for the mid tier Ryzen rather than the £500 on the 9900k.
 
a amd chip beat or level with a intel chip in a benchmark. look at previous amd chips even current ones on cinebench then go look at real life game benchmarks see where that top end amd chip comes . below a lowly i5. people just bleating on about cinebench what about gaming where most here will be using it lol. cant wait for the launch gunna be some salty people when they realize they been amd hoodwinked yet again.

yeah gaming performance is key for the masses for the niche Im hoping they have sorted out the Latency issues...As a low latency 16/32 core chip could sit happily in my studio...

I could sell the 9900k in MM to the poor folk :p
 
if and a big if they perform at what they say they do for leaked prices. its all guesses. look logically and realistically. why would amd sell a 200 quid chip that can beat a 500 for 200 ? makes no sense in anyway or business sense. people have no understanding of this. also remember you comparing intel prices now to what they will be in 6 months. so in 6 months a 9900k which will probably be quicker still ingames than the chip we talking about might be 350. so hundred ish difference. people will still pay it to have superior performance ingames just like they do now.
 
No I want people to post facts...it’s not half the power fact

I did post facts. I removed the hyperbole and reposted actual mathematically derived numbers. So stop commenting "it's not half" when I already said it's not half.

So stop crying like a pathetic little child and find an actual real argument or counterpoint to discuss rationally like an adult. Or just stop trolling and don't let the door kit you on that 9900K on the way out.
 
if and a big if they perform at what they say they do for leaked prices. its all guesses. look logically and realistically. why would amd sell a 200 quid chip that can beat a 500 for 200 ? makes no sense in anyway or business sense. people have no understanding of this. also remember you comparing intel prices now to what they will be in 6 months. so in 6 months a 9900k which will probably be quicker still ingames than the chip we talking about might be 350. so hundred ish difference. people will still pay it to have superior performance ingames just like they do now.

They pulled apart the price brackets with Ryzen 1st gen pushing out a 8/16 for £300 when the closest Intel was over £1k. They could have sold it for £600 but they didn't. They will do it again because they can afford to do it. And pushing more cores on hardware will give developers the push they need to write for more cores.
 
yet the actual performance for most things were slower than base i7s or even i5s ? they can do it again. think of the mass gaming market or where these will be aimed at.
 
if and a big if they perform at what they say they do for leaked prices. its all guesses. look logically and realistically. why would amd sell a 200 quid chip that can beat a 500 for 200 ? makes no sense in anyway or business sense. people have no understanding of this. also remember you comparing intel prices now to what they will be in 6 months. so in 6 months a 9900k which will probably be quicker still ingames than the chip we talking about might be 350. so hundred ish difference. people will still pay it to have superior performance ingames just like they do now.

My guess is that AMD need the market share. If you have a superior product, then it makes business sense to flood the market at a cheaper RRP. To gain that market share. As people tempted, will need to get an AM4 or AM5 board.
 
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