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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Relax, it's called speculation. We have a few presumed facts and some variables. In Cinebench it's pretty obvious the 16c part will be about twice as fast as the demo, possibly more, possibly less.

Thank goodness for Zen as we'd be discussing the relative merits of quad core desktop parts versus HEDT platforms
 
Oh right, because you can't engage in harmless discussion, speculation, banter and reasoned logic can you. Yeah I forgot that bit. But since you're true to form and just bitching on me rather than discussing the point, how about you give me some non-exist proof supporting why a 16 core Ryzen can't exist and utterly batter the **** out of the 9900K.

Tell you what, how about we all just shut up and never say anything until we're spoon fed actual numbers on the day of release. Or at the very least, if YOU don't want to engage in the aforementioned and have such a massive problem with the potential of Ryzen battering the living snot out of Intel for the next couple of years then perhaps you can just leave us children to wet our pants.

I'm sure there's somewhere on the internet that needs excuses making for Intel's 10nm screw-ups and their resulting total inability to compete. Off you jog.
 
This is starting to feel a lot like the Intel fanboys are trying to justify to themselves and anyone else who will listen their purchase of their this shiny 9900K. I like the 990K BUT I am also really looking forward to Zen2 and seeing what it is all about. Reading the speculation is interesting and a little exciting even if some of it ultimate does not come to fruition. The petty bickering about hopw great Intel is and how its just not possible for AMD to trump them is irrelevant at this point and quite frankly boring
 
d_brennen said:
^^ you can relax too, we got six months to find out :p :D
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Hey, I'm all chill when it comes to Ryzen. I was impressed with the demo, I enjoyed what AMD actually said by what they didn't say, and I'm now working out if my chronic financial situation will allow me to build a full AMD 3000 system around September (ish) when Navi shows up.

And the likes of Dg are on the ignore list anyway so I won't be responding with the contempt that they deserve again for a while, I have better things to lose my internet temper over :p
 
I'm very interested to see the 16c part to see if it batters my 1950X in CB too. Speculating that 10% is lost with an additional 8c ccx on there that would equate to a 3908 multi-threaded CB score. Roughly 340pts higher than my 1950X sample at 4.1GHz which ended up 3572 for my best run. Could probably beat that now, but to get above 3600 I need better memory.
 
Stephanie Peterson said:
I recon the AM4 16 core version will go at least toe to toe with the 1950x... prob higher.. maybe 15% or so.. even regarding memory bandwidth ect..
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Oh it'll slap the 1950X into next week unless it's a quad channel memory scenario, then the 1950X will possibly win. The beauty of it is the 3950X when it arrives will slot straight into my Zenith and **** all over the 1950X, likely with double the core count and less power draw :D
 
16C on AM4 will make the TR platform more redundant and unjustifiably expensive for some so it will be interesting to see how sales hold up.
Of course it still has its place as a bargain workstation platform and even if they stick to ONLY 32C, the shift to Zen 2 cores will help performance and even more so power consumption.
 
smilingcrow said:
16C on AM4 will make the TR platform more redundant and unjustifiably expensive for some so it will be interesting to see how sales hold up.
Of course it still has its place as a bargain workstation platform and even if they stick to ONLY 32C, the shift to Zen 2 cores will help performance and even more so power consumption.
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Probably see 16C as the entry level TR4 chip with 24, 32 and 64C variants so it's still have a place as a workstation.
 
easyrider said:
So you dont think we will have 16c Ryzen 3XXX models?
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Are you just being intentionally obtuse? 12c and 16c models for Ryzen 3xxx have been pretty much confirmed from the horses mouth...

ThreadRipper has historically matched the top end Ryzen for core count too just allowing quad channel instead of dual channel support and a much cheaper barrier to entry for the HEDT platform. Though of course you already knew this and are just playing stupid.
 
Just to confirm * edited * .


  • Midrange part
  • 65W
  • 8 core (max likely 16)
  • Engineering sample (likely not final speed)
  • On slow memory.

Beats the 9900k.


Enjoy.
 
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