Looks like 300 and 400 boards may not support Ryzen 3000 after all and here's why.
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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***
- Thread starter Jamin280672
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Ill put some coal in to the Hype Train
If this turns out to be true, id defo pay £500 for that black edition 3800X, 16 cores, 32 threads boosting to 5ghz nearly...……..Mommy, may I ?
As for fake, pretty sure it is, no one knows yet except for AMD.
If this is true, these are very exciting times and Intel are but a distant memory.
It's crazy how AMD nearly went bust a couple of years ago and Intel were still milking us with 4 core 8 thread CPUs, that's quite some come back from AMD.
Last I heard, RyZen 9 series CPU's the 16 core 32 thread CPU's will require an X570 board
All other RyZen's will run fine in current boards, so RyZen 7 12 core 24 thread and downwards.
Pretty sure that was also in AdoredTV's video.
All i'll say is fast forward to 11.49 on the video below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN1mbDUpJDw
Hey it was a dumb guess.
Yes RyZen 9 may need a new motherboard X570 / B550, but only due to the power requirements, AdoredTV was basically saying, yes they could probably run on our X470 motherboards, but they don't want to risk people putting them into B450 boards and killing the board or CPU or both due to inadequate power. therefore they will possible only be supported on the newer boards, however all of the other RyZen 3000 CPU's will work on current and older generation boards.
Every board is going to need a bios update to support any RyZen 3000 CPU, if they don't want to risk you putting a RyZen 9 in your current board, the microcode for those CPU's just wont be included in your bios update.
15mins 08 secs in the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCdsTBsH-rI
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Not a chance, worst case scenario we will see RyZen 9 16 core 32 thread in March / April
the Rest of the line up RyZen 7/5 and 3 will be June / July, they may take a little longer to produce as they will be built from the faulty silicon that doesnt meet RyZen 9 standards, having to fuse off cores etc.
They did the same with the first edition chips, we got RyZen 7 1800X / 1700X & 1700 first then 2 months later got the rest.
CES! CES!! CES!!!
Totally off topic.....but one of the best movies Rick has ever done, PMSL all the way through it.
3700X im coming for you.............
YouTube top comment poacher.
ITT: when geeks get agitated
Lol the top comment is mine
Yes this is true, but remember once again, so far they have proved it keeps up and even slightly beats intel's 9900K, thats a Coffee Lake chip, AMD said they were building this chip to compete with Ice Lake, and they still have approx 3-4 months to get the performance up, refine the IPC and the clock speeds, still loads more to come yet.
Nice try, but the Intel 9900K even at stock boosts to 5ghz, and although the AMD chip had undisclosed speeds, I dont think it was hitting 5ghz, personally I think it was around 4.5ghz which makes it even better, they didnt use there top dog CPU's speculated to be nearly and above 5ghz, those are 16 core and 12 core parts, they used what will now be there mid range CPU's 8 core 16 thread, and non of those are speculated to be 5ghz, even on a single core boost.
Previously in Cinebench multicore tests, AMD beat Intel purely on core count, AMD had twice as many as Intel, AMD obviously won, but like you said, single core wasnt there, but this time its was 8 core vs 8 core, no advantage to either team, and the only thing we really knew is what speed the Intel 9900K was running at.
RyZen 9 3950X 16 core 32 thread 4.7ghz coming in September.......$749
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The biggest laugh I had last night was Intel challenging AMD to a real life test, AMD 7nm vs Intel, AMD weren't that far behind with their 12nm lol.
Pretty sure if they took to TDP up a noch, they could boost to 5ghz, they need to save something for next years 7nm+ though, I think thats when we will see all the faster Zen2's, they'll have a year to refine it.
I agree, I remember when they were almost top of the game, I was a big fanboi of thiers, then they suddenly seemed to take a nose dive, beyond belief, I went off them for years, the bioses completely let their boards down, at the release of RyZen 2000 I decided to give them another chance, yup regretted that pretty quickly, and that was the flagship Gaming 7 x470 board, the board itself was the dogs do-da's, but the bios once again was rubbish, thats it for me and Gigabyte, ive swapped sides to MSI, love the X470 board I have of theirs, and they brought my dreams true by making a Godlike for AM4.
Thats all well and good, once again, they've got the aesthetics spot on, but it doesnt suddenly make their bios programmers brilliant, even to the point of LLC and basics like spread spectrum missing out of high end x470 boards caused me no end of stability problems, causes the BLK to fluctuate all over the place.
The fact of the matter is more VRM's just arnt going to cut it for me, the 16 core RyZen 3000 is still a 105w part.
I tried out 3 x470 motherboards, all flagships, the Gigabyte Gaming 7 was the worst, I couldnt get my CPU overclock stable no matter what I tried, the ASUS CH7 was OK, just didnt really like it much, just preference, but got my 2700X stable at 4.2ghz 1.4v, the best was the MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC got my CPU stable at 4.2ghz 1.3875v with ease.
Doesnt matter how many phases you have, everyone who's had a RyZen CPU knows that they hit a wall, and they wont even go 100mhz past that wall without massive stupid amounts of voltage, you either get a good chip or a bad one.
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As I started the thread quite some time ago, based on the Zen 2 CPU's, maybe I should have the thread closed, especially as we are now on the brink of the release of the CPU the thread was based on, its turned into quite the biatch fest.
The OP said, if these turn out to be true then they are going to be shocking CPU's, well we all know the link I posted turned out to be true, at the time of posting it, they were all just rumors floating around.
The OP said, if these turn out to be true then they are going to be shocking CPU's, well we all know the link I posted turned out to be true, at the time of posting it, they were all just rumors floating around.
https://wccftech-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/wccftech.com/amd-x590-chipset-ryzen-3000-cpus-spotted/amp/?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From %1$s&share=https://wccftech.com/amd-x590-chipset-ryzen-3000-cpus-spotted/
Unsure if already posted. Sorry another motherboard post
I find it very strange that X570 boards dont support 1st gen RyZen, surely the bios chip is big enough to add those CPU's to the microcode list, They're not that different from 2nd gen.
Only downside to that board is there is no bios to support RyZen 3000 CPU's yet, im waiting for one for my MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC too, there is a beta though, but loads of people are complaining about it bricking boards, maybe they are doing something wrong: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=320889.0 some even say its not recognized by the board due to the size and layout change, the beta bios doesnt get recognized by mine either, however, there is a 3rd party piece of software I can use to force flash it, or the bios flashback button would probably do it too.