Well if you are buying a Ryzen 3000 series CPU you'll probably want to see what works best with them as it could end up seeing significant IMC improvements. I am not 100% sure but I think they were aiming for 3200MHz support out of the box, much like Zen+ has 2933MHz now. I had some Crucial (Micron) RAM recently that was sold as 266MHz and on the MSI B450 Tomahawk with a 2600X it was hitting 3466MHz C14 and 3600MHz C15/16 and that was super cheap, pushing 1.425v at the highest speed.
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Well if you are buying a Ryzen 3000 series CPU you'll probably want to see what works best with them as it could end up seeing significant IMC improvements. I am not 100% sure but I think they were aiming for 3200MHz support out of the box, much like Zen+ has 2933MHz now. I had some Crucial (Micron) RAM recently that was sold as 266MHz and on the MSI B450 Tomahawk with a 2600X it was hitting 3466MHz C14 and 3600MHz C15/16 and that was super cheap, pushing 1.425v at the highest speed.
That's exactly which CPU line up I'm waiting for
.I'll be waiting to see what the gurus on the forums find to work best before making any purchases anyway.
That's exactly which CPU line up I'm waiting for
I'll be waiting to see what the gurus on the forums find to work best before making any purchases anyway.
I've hedged my bets. Bought 3200mhz b-die to go with Ryzen 2, found a decent trade on some 4ghz b-die sticks for about the price I could get for my old ones... figured if anything will work well with Ryzen 3 it'll be faster b-die.
The numbers below on ram are at 1.35v so... there's plenty of leg room in these if needed
I've hedged my bets. Bought 3200mhz b-die to go with Ryzen 2, found a decent trade on some 4ghz b-die sticks for about the price I could get for my old ones... figured if anything will work well with Ryzen 3 it'll be faster b-die.
The numbers below on ram are at 1.35v so... there's plenty of leg room in these if needed
Which item did you go with in the end?
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Yes it will almost certainly work, however you will more than likely need to manually time them in with Ryzen DRAM calculator to get them to run, unless they have an XMP profile built in for 3200mhz. Even if they do have, I'd manually time them using the calc anyway, as the difference (especially in gaming) is quite noticeable.
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You can get that team group stuff for £120 with 3200mhz cl14, but currently out of stock.
Not sure it's even worth it when you can get 3000mhz cl15 for about 40 odd less though, and 3200mhz cl16 not much more.
Not sure it's even worth it when you can get 3000mhz cl15 for about 40 odd less though, and 3200mhz cl16 not much more.
Cheers. My 8086k is plenty fast enough, but I'm fed up of Intel plus cores, cores, cores.
People get their knickers in such a twist over memory for Ryzen. "It will almost certainly work" lol. I can assure you it WILL work. it's DDR4 memory. it WILL work. You don't need to manually do anything. plug and play.
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Lets not be overly pedantic lol, yeah it will work, but unlikely at the rated speeds if they are above 3200mhz which is the woe a lot of Ryzen owners suffer and I'm assuming what @chrisd was referring to. Plug and play, sure, but then you're leaving a lot of performance on the table if XMP isn't enabled and even when it is, there's still more performance to be gained with manually timing in the RAM. Even XMP on 3200mhz CL14 8 pack timings, you're leaving behind some extra performance by not manually timing them... Pain in the arse tbh, hopefully the 3000 series have improved this so that memory can just run at XMP without the need for manual tuning.
It's not a lot of performance though is it. It's marginal performance
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That statement isn't one that any person can make about any given platform when speaking about running memory out of spec. There are too many variables at play. To name but a few, board layers, CPU variance, board memory rules, impedance, temperature, memory vendor guardband and even to a lesser extent, board variance. This is applicable to any platform regardless of vendor.
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Depends, the guy that made the DRAM calc suggests it can be quite a difference depending on the game or application (can't find the link to his guide, but recall him saying even 3200XMP to 3200 manual timings yielded around 20fps on some games). From my own experience in a couple of games I play there's literally zero difference, but on pube g going from XMP 3200 to manual timings at 3466 had a pretty big impact, same on Overwatch too. On pube I was seeing the FPS counter consistently over 200fps, with XMP it rarely ever went over 200.
Everybody is different. Some see zero difference, some see huge gains. Besides, everything benefits from manual tweaking, and not just Ryzen. If you're just going to smash any old components into a PC and press the on button then save yourself the trouble and get a Dell from PC World. The simple fact that we are even discussing this means we have an interest in hardware beyond the superficial, and part of the discussion will be performance gains, hardware incompatibilities and workarounds and how to wring every last drop of awesome out of our investments.
So yes, although you can drop any old DDR4 kit into a Ryzen board and it will function, I'd hardly consider it worthwhile. And exactly the same applies to Intel boards too.
It is more performance than the leap from 1xxx to 2xxx at same clockspeeds.
Sorry if I am preaching to the converted here but I wonder of everyone who is struggling with RAM speeds at the stated mhz may have the issue I initially had.
When I put my 2600 build together I could not get xmp (or whatever asus called it) to work and I could only get 2666mhz on the memory, it wasn't until I read the manual from front to back that I found that with 2 sticks they go into the B slots. since then no problem hitting 3200mhz.
I appreciate that many know this but just in case.
When I put my 2600 build together I could not get xmp (or whatever asus called it) to work and I could only get 2666mhz on the memory, it wasn't until I read the manual from front to back that I found that with 2 sticks they go into the B slots. since then no problem hitting 3200mhz.
I appreciate that many know this but just in case.
Some unfortunate auto-corrections of PUBG there!
