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x570 pain train continues

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maltrabob said:
And after first adopters buy this AMD will release X590 revised chipset with proper pricing and passive cooling :).
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The Gigabyte extreme comes with passive cooling. I’ll likely go for that. Then again all the Gigabyte board tear downs so far show they have significant VRMs and cooling.

All depends on that chipset though, last thing I want is that being the noise in my system.
 
maltrabob said:
@Nightmare: I wouldn't pay hundreds of pounds for X570 when AMD said X470 will work just as fine. Unless you need PCIE 4.0, but I can't see it will make a lot of difference in real life in terms of gaming and data storage.
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I might, depends on how well the boards handle 3733mhz ram at 32gb, and the new processors.

Plus I’ll need to either buy another CPU as well to flash it for support.

Reviews can’t come soon enough really; but the last thing I want is to spent hundreds, pay for shipping to Ireland, and worse case have to pay shipping back to return the board to get an X570 anyway if doesn’t offer comparable performance.

Would be a waste of money and time.
 
maltrabob said:
@Nightmare: I wouldn't pay hundreds of pounds for X570 when AMD said X470 will work just as fine. Unless you need PCIE 4.0, but I can't see it will make a lot of difference in real life in terms of gaming and data storage.
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I think I'll narrow down my X570 options based on features, then have a look at the pricing. If it turns out to be silly then I'll just grab the X470 Taichi Ultimate instead (currently £230). The VRMs on that will be plenty for 16 cores.

It'll be a bit of a pain but I can borrow my server's R7 1700 to flash it if needed.
 
N19h7m4r3 said:
Plus I’ll need to either buy another CPU as well to flash it for support.
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amd in the past have sent out 'flash kits' so this may be an option this time round again. failing that i could well be able to send you my Ryzen 1600 to flash the bios if you were stuck as i'll likely be looking at a 3700/3800 or whatever is the best bang for buck gaming cpu.
 
alec said:
Some ASUS boards and many MSI boards support BIOS flashback. It works without CPU installed.
Or alternatively store where you buy the motherboard can update the BIOS.
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Some support it, it’s not a guarantee.

Not all stores offer that service either, and once again likely extra cost for a chance.

Until reviews show it working, and all proper stores support that flash option, it’s jut not an option worth considering.

Too many unknowns until reviews.

If I can get an X570 for €300 and it does better, especially on memory support, it’s better than buying an X470 and trying to fiddle, and hope it can flash successfully without a cpu, or hope the retailer selling it would flash it, and I doubt that’s free also. While potentially having worse memory support.

Guess I’ll find out in two weeks.
 
N19h7m4r3 said:
So I need to buy the board, then send it to them? And they cover the shipping to and from?

Got a link to look into it?
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For the current sockets they loan you a first gen Ryzen CPU rather than you mailing the board to them. Some retailers will update the BIOS for you if you buy an old board and CPU at once so worth asking CS if they will be offering to do so upon release.
 
Hmm if I can get it all done while ordering in one go it might be worth it.

Now to wait for reviews and tests on X470 vs x570.

Would’ve great if an X470 can support XMP over 4000mhz ram off the bat as well then.

Does OCUK offer this service? Never seen it on the site last time I ordered anything .
emodan said:
For the current sockets they loan you a first gen Ryzen CPU rather than you mailing the board to them. Some retailers will update the BIOS for you if you buy an old board and CPU at once so worth asking CS if they will be offering to do so upon release.
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