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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Robert896r1 said:
How many reviewers will try to normalize the systems?

Example: Z390 Master vs X570 Master. Same RAM speed and timings on both platforms.
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RAM speed and timing is the only thing relevant there, branding and model of board is irrelevant due to the chasm of differences between the platforms.
 
Robert896r1 said:
How many reviewers will try to normalize the systems?
Example: Z390 Master vs X570 Master. Same RAM speed and timings on both platforms.
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First day reviews should focus on stock RAM speeds I think and then they can spend time to optimise Zen2 RAM settings and compare both platforms with over-clocked RAM.
I have little interest in how they compare at the same RAM speed and timings. If you want to do that then why not also also compare with the same CPU clocks?
I think that is very secondary.
Lets see the stock CPU/RAM performance and then the overclocked CPU/RAM performance as that is what people actually use.
The academic **** can come later.
 
Well this has taken the edge off it all.
I play at 1440...so won't see an issue, but shame they don't smack Intel around at 720.

Waiting for the reviews.... Sunday is it?
 
lnoton said:
Well this has taken the edge off it all.
I play at 1440...so won't see an issue, but shame they don't smack Intel around at 720.

Waiting for the reviews.... Sunday is it?
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Wins in 4/6 games. Not "smacking around" but winning in the only gaming benchmarks we have so far.
 
4K8KW10 said:
It isn't true, though, is it. There is a large difference coming from somewhere at low resolutions. It exists and will be there:

ROTR 1280x720
i9-9900K 181.1 FPS (+52.7%)
9 3900X 149.9 FPS (+26.4%)
7 3700X 147.5 FPS (+24.4%)
7 2700X 122.9 FPS (+3.6%)
5 2600X 118.6 FPS (100%)
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I am sorry but I run 20 years old GeForce 256 at that resolution. Who really cares about 720p anymore on today's hardware?
 
There are many ways to pick apart the ROTR benchmark but it suggests a trend as do all the other leaks.
Sure 720p is atypical but the numbers sing (an Intel tune).
 
720p......................... oh come on!
What I do see is these chips giving 5600/5700 single core vs 9900K giving a bit more in geekbench, still waiting for anything that makes any sense, at this point it's not looking like a Win to me.
 
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had small check on the new bios for C7H Bclk overclocking not stable and due to heatwave had to bump my vcore by 70mv thats why It scores 5 points less (life ruined). Its 8c warmer in the room than when i was playing with 2304 bios :D
 
smilingcrow said:
First day reviews should focus on stock RAM speeds I think and then they can spend time to optimise Zen2 RAM settings and compare both platforms with over-clocked RAM.
I have little interest in how they compare at the same RAM speed and timings. If you want to do that then why not also also compare with the same CPU clocks?
I think that is very secondary.
Lets see the stock CPU/RAM performance and then the overclocked CPU/RAM performance as that is what people actually use.
The academic **** can come later.
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Exactly this.
 
those benches do dampen my resolve slightly to go for a 3900x for a ~5 year service life. however, as most poeple have said, 720p really isn't a good res to test in this day and age exclusively. I imagine even PCGH full review will have the other resolutions available.

I remember benching my shiny new pascal 1070 and being dissappointed it got far lower FPS scores in some of the low 3dmark benches like cloud gate, skydiver? (the one with the walker thing on the asteroid?!) compared to my old maxwell 980. we were talking differences like, 900fps to 800fps!!

Hopefully the same thing here, we're comparing CPUs at a resolution they're just not tuned for, or at least show massive difference due to run variance, specific benchmark etc.

time will tell.

reviews normally drop as the clock strikes midnight?!
 
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