It's hardly silly, if a huge majority of the user base required it and if the current competition offered it already then it would be an issue, but they don't so it isn't. The fact is if they offered a new CPU that is faster than anything currently on offer by both AMD and Intel, and have it ready to ship sooner than the chipset and people are happy to buy it, how is it silly to make sales, or prevent sales going to the competition?
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It's hardly silly, if a huge majority of the user base required it and if the current competition offered it already then it would be an issue, but they don't so it isn't. The fact is if they offered a new CPU that is faster than anything currently on offer by both AMD and Intel, and have it ready to ship sooner than the chipset and people are happy to buy it, how is it silly to make sales, or prevent sales going to the competition?
I don't think for one min that X570 offers PCI-E 4.0. I think that it likely offers the best clocking on the 3850x.................................time will tell.
Where have you been for the last 2 years? Do you think you'll have the 9900k now if Ryzen wasn't released? Intel HAS been reigned in, their last advantage is about to be eroded, they 'should' jump Intel in IPC with Zen2. It's just to see if they can match, or beat, Intel in manufacturing and they'll be fastest - for a little while at least.
You hit the nail on the head at the end of your post.
When I change platform I expect it to to last 4 years, as my current platform has. I won't be buying a motherboard only to have it become dated on a major PCI-E revision a few months down the line.
Sure, lacking PCI-E 4 in the next 12-18mths won't be an issue, but it be might after that.
For someone like me knowing x570 is around the corner following a Zen 2 launch will make me hold off. That's giving Intel an opportunity.
It would be an issue but PCI-E 5.0 will be out in 2021, so your 4 year window is already blown.
I’m fully aware of tech companies drip feeding tech in order to maximise profits...yes...intel have had no competition until Ryzen.
I’ve been waiting on 8/16 intel for ages...
Shame AMD can’t make a decent gfx card to shake Nvidia up a bit.
It will be a shame though if Ryzen 3000 doesn’t beat my 5ghz 9900k though.
It would be an issue but PCI-E 5.0 will be out in 2021, so your 4 year window is already blown.
But it won't be, because the 4th gen I bought into will still be relevant some time into 5th gen launch.
Irrespective, AMD need to nail this and get a new platform and CPU out in a relatively close window. If they want to capitalise that is.
Another year at least...people are expecting Ryzen 3000 in the shops come Easter, April time...not going to happen
There's actually the very real possibility of using lane splitters to divide the 20 non chipset PCIe 4.0 Lanes into 40 PCIe 3.0 lanes , just sayin
Some Mobo manufacturers might jump onto that train.Oh, it's gonna happen.
There's actually the very real possibility of using lane splitters to divide the 20 non chipset PCIe 4.0 Lanes into 40 PCIe 3.0 lanes , just sayin
Check several pages back, already said that. Dropping to 16x PCi-3.0 and addind bifurcation to a secondary 16x slot would be great, but that is something an enthusiast would want, not a just a general end user or OEM.
It’s jan now...and no mention of zen 2 at CES next week
This man has already been to the future and watched Lisa Su presenting at the Keynote, he knows what is happening.
There's several rumors going round, AdoredTV has been offered a review X570 board... There's a whole lot of action incoming.
This man has already been to the future and watched Lisa Su presenting at the Keynote, he knows what is happening.
His doctor calls him but he doesn't answer the phone
What happened? The WWIII has just started or the aliens are here?
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In 3 months we'll be hearing all about how the easy shuffle entails taking a huge hit on a 9900k to move to Zen 2.
Ah hahaha... I remember that, Easyshuffle on GPU's being ahead of the market at all times. ROFL.
Hmm...you don't "need" X570 until Navi shows up, assuming that's PCI-E 4 (but why would it not be?) but I'd be pretty confident in saying AMD would want to pair their anniversary 5GHz beast with the top-end boards. So if the 3850X is announced May 1st for the 50th anniversary, I can't see them waiting an entire month to actually launch it to coincide with X570 launch at Computex.
Also, the X570 at Computex thing comes from a leaked slide at a private Gigabyte event that appears to be quite old actually; if you interpret the items in red text to be unreleased products, this slide would be before the release of B450. That puts it June last year at the absolute latest. A lot can change in 6 months. With all the talk of TSMC's 7nm being better than expected, we saw Vega 20 and EPYC Rome moved forward, could it be the Ryzen plans have been moved forward too, necessitating X570 to launch earlier than end of May? Navi as well?
If I were Lisa Su, I'd want to push an entire PCi-E 4 ecosystem at the same time: Ryzen, X570 and Navi all announced together, all released as close together as possible and then bolster it with X499 and Threadripper 3 in August. That would fire more than a couple of warning shots across Intel's and Nvidia's bow.
Also, the X570 at Computex thing comes from a leaked slide at a private Gigabyte event that appears to be quite old actually; if you interpret the items in red text to be unreleased products, this slide would be before the release of B450. That puts it June last year at the absolute latest. A lot can change in 6 months. With all the talk of TSMC's 7nm being better than expected, we saw Vega 20 and EPYC Rome moved forward, could it be the Ryzen plans have been moved forward too, necessitating X570 to launch earlier than end of May? Navi as well?
If I were Lisa Su, I'd want to push an entire PCi-E 4 ecosystem at the same time: Ryzen, X570 and Navi all announced together, all released as close together as possible and then bolster it with X499 and Threadripper 3 in August. That would fire more than a couple of warning shots across Intel's and Nvidia's bow.
Only a whole lot of action if Jim get's the mobo before CES and if AMD don't hold him to an NDA.