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Lol wutbasically you need £1500 to upgrade to ryzen 3000, no thx
basically you need £1500 to upgrade to ryzen 3000, no thx
basically you need £1500 to upgrade to ryzen 3000, no thx
I guess it's because people have said X570 (PCIe 4.0) requires higher quality boards so they're going to cost more, although I'm not sure why 90% of people would want PCIe 4.0.No idea why people think all the boards are going to cost a small fortune, ASRock seem to have one of the best product lineups for price range going from ~£139-£950, then entry level board is the 'Asrock X570 Phantom Gaming 4' and is obviously no frills, but has PCI-E 4.0 if you need it.
I guess it's because people have said X570 (PCIe 4.0) requires higher quality boards so they're going to cost more, although I'm not sure why 90% of people would want PCIe 4.0.
Personally speaking there's a lot of things higher up on my list of requirements than PCIe 4.0, perhaps rather controversially I'd put the X570 chipset on the con side of my pro/con list, it's AMD's first attempt at a chipset in a while after all and there's no knowing how good the driver support for it is going to be, ASMedia maybe a bit janky overall but at least they've had two chipset to sort out any teething issues, i hope.
I've not really had any issues with the TR4/X399 chipset based boards and they are an all AMD design, well I say none that was involving the chipset, I've had plenty of headaches with BIOS issues as the platform matured.
As for the PCI-E 4.0 comment, I think it revolves around those people who buy and forget, knowing that in 5 years time they'll be able to put in a graphics card and it should perform like it is meant to. You only need to look at the number of people coming from 2500K/3770K etc. to see how long some people keep systems, and the main things that change the most are RAM/Disk subsystem/GPU, so if the board can do all they need, and the CPU is good enough then it is peace of mind in some repsects.
Valid points - and is why i'm resisting all the 2xxx/b450/x470 bargains (but makes fiscal sense if on a budget) - plus i wanna playAs for the PCI-E 4.0 comment, I think it revolves around those people who buy and forget, knowing that in 5 years time they'll be able to put in a graphics card and it should perform like it is meant to. You only need to look at the number of people coming from 2500K/3770K etc. to see how long some people keep systems, and the main things that change the most are RAM/Disk subsystem/GPU, so if the board can do all they need, and the CPU is good enough then it is peace of mind in some repsects.
Man i really shouldn't read news comments on Ryzen at the moment... so many sycophantic weirdos, i really seriously don't get fanboyism in tech.
Jesus. Past few pages made for some strange reading. I.e. nothing of note just ridiculous claims and bickering.
Let's hope today is a better day!
basically you need £1500 to upgrade to ryzen 3000, no thx
I mean, I am sure you could spend £1500 if you want to but I can see an 8 core with a good board and 16GB of 3200Mhz RAM being about £700?
I mean, I am sure you could spend £1500 if you want to but I can see an 8 core with a good board and 16GB of 3200Mhz RAM being about £700?
Depends where you are coming from. For those of us on older systems, factor in an NVMe SSD and DDR4 ram. Add a decent aftermarket CPU cooler on top of that too. So I'm facing more like £1k, which is getting kinda pricey. And it's not like there are any decent new games to take advantage of all this upgrading... (enter fanboys who claim they spend all day "encoding, etc." so "need the extra cores"..)