The speed of the PS5 SSD is not just crazy read/write speeds, it's the similarly fast IO (how the SSD interfaces with the rest of the system). There is nothing close on PC, see Tim Sweeney's comments. This is the benefit of a dedicated gaming machine vs one slapped together with different pluggable components (PC).
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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.
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There is always an architectural selling point on every console release, I'm not saying it's not good, far from it. I'm just saying it's the same every build up to a release. Even if when it's out and pc hasn't caught up in SSD tech, the GPU and CPUs will still be more powerful, FPS will be higher, graphics will be higher and the pc will just miss out on the seemless loading demonstrated on ratchet on clank which it would do anyway
They very well may do that or not even port it across.
No developer wants their game to look bad on consoles. They don't want to have their game running or looking like crap on consoles while first party and other third party games are looking good or pushing boundaries. Either they will require NVME or RAM requirements are going to jump up.
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You buy the board to give you the option. You don't have to buy the drive. If you build a new PC every few years it's irrelevant. If you intend to keep much longer term and drop in 4000 series when it's cheaper, it's worth the price of a game or two.
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Has AMD any online showcase or announcement or something planned for today?
As I recall this was the date mentioned everywhere, but I can't find reference to a time of an event.
As I recall this was the date mentioned everywhere, but I can't find reference to a time of an event.
It's release day for B550 boards (so reviews can appear from 2pm I believe and Overclockers will put them on sale) and the Ryzen XT series should be formally announced. I'm not sure if that's a showcase, or just an announcement or just .....
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lol been waiting nearly a year for B550 and then they stick an NDA on release day....
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You seem very interested in the NVMe advantage, especially with faster drives, may I recommend a good read at Anandtech for you. Storage Matters, a new Era of gaming.
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Interested enough to type a few responses here, that's as far as it goes. £40-50 isn't much to pay to have the option in years to come. The refresh consoles will likely be quicker still. It's a guess as to how this will translate to gaming. I just remember playing the battlefield games as a vehicle player - those load times and being first in on map rotation made all the difference. SSD wasn't a requirement. It's certainly worth noting given the amount of time some people spend here talking about cpu performance differences, which translates to fps advantages that aren't even discernible outside of a benchmark. It's also the biggest thing the new consoles have going for them. 2080s and above already likely to outperform. 3700x and above - more than enough for now.
I tell you what will happen because of the PS5's storage subsystem: we're going to see improved PC storage too.
There's already been talk of "DirectStorage" being a thing, and I'm sure companies will implement the same sort of ideas in PC hardware as Sony have done. Sure, we're not going to get as integrated as Sony can with their homogeneous hardware platform, but given the usual PC hardware overkill, I think we'll get to the same or better performance levels.
The problem will be that developers won't be able to count on a fast storage subsystem beyond whatever DirectStorage turns out to be, so they won't be able to design assets around it like they will for PS5.
There's already been talk of "DirectStorage" being a thing, and I'm sure companies will implement the same sort of ideas in PC hardware as Sony have done. Sure, we're not going to get as integrated as Sony can with their homogeneous hardware platform, but given the usual PC hardware overkill, I think we'll get to the same or better performance levels.
The problem will be that developers won't be able to count on a fast storage subsystem beyond whatever DirectStorage turns out to be, so they won't be able to design assets around it like they will for PS5.
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what a **** show, ridiculous B550 pricing and no stock, bravo AMD.
Have you looked at a lot of online stores lately? A lot of things such as motherboards, psu's, ram etc etc are all lacking in stock due to the pandemic. And i'm pretty sure it's not amd setting pricing for the motherboards, that's up-to the third parties that make them.
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But AMD's chipset is costing more money this time around, so that's bumped up the price.
It has but as standard manufacturers will take the **** and crank the prices higher than need be. The chipset is probably costing a few dollars more at most.
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Companies are using the pandemic to add more inflation to the prices.
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There have been pictures of the new 7NM APUs in a desktop AM4 socket,so I expect they will be released over the next few months??
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4400G arrives next month allegedly
https://www.techradar.com/news/6-core-amd-ryzen-apu-spotted-could-this-be-a-new-budget-champion
Ah not bad, I'm currently on 4790k with RX 550 (barely game nowadays) so if I could get a similar performance but stick it into a small ITX package that would be very nice.
EDIT: Actually 4700G with 8 cores sounds very nice although not sure how well that would cope with heat in a small build.
EDIT: Actually 4700G with 8 cores sounds very nice although not sure how well that would cope with heat in a small build.
maybe cost a little more but 100 - 180 80 quid more nahh....they will settle once many dont buy and why do you even really need them over a 4 series board at the moment ? not many reasons. so until the new amd cpus we actually drop or get a release date these aint gunna be selling loads. also none of that we sold out already when all you got is a couple of each
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