Caporegime
Give me something tangible like a handbreak benchmark with the same file, same settings etc.
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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.
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Caporegime
Any searching I did for people comparing them is "Geekbench is crap"
I wouldn't put any stock in it lol.
If ARM was *that* powerful then we'd have loads of ARM windows products, the only one we have gets smashed by cheaper products.
You need to wait for ARM macs for that, no handbrake on iOS.
The good old "benchmarks that don't tell me what I want to hear are crap"
Caporegime
At half the CPU speed the Apple ARM chip results in 2X the performance of a 5Ghz Intel CPU, that's 4X the performance.
So an ARM CPU would be 4X faster per clock vs Intel in Handbreak running on Linux would it?
Caporegime
No, more like benchmark that doesn't match reality can be ignored.
If ARM was that powerful we'd have more ARM products in consumer products.
What?! No. At half the frequency, it has equal performance. So roughly 2x IPC, not 4x.
It doesn't mean Apple can just up the frequency to 5GHz if they wanted to either. Not unless they actually do it and we see it. We haven't seen their mac chips yet.
Caporegime
Lets just see where this goes....
Welcome to 2020, when Apple is bringing ARM to all consumer macs. Apple is 2-3 years ahead of other ARM processors, so they're not that far behind.
Caporegime
Go check a Surface Pro X review and see how they rate it performance wise lol.
Caporegime
So an ARM CPU would finish the job in the same time at 2.5Ghz as a 5Ghz Intel in Handbreak on Linux?
Caporegime
Well let's wait and see, but I can only compare current products that exist and Surface X gets beaten by Surface Pro 7. That's the closest example we currently have
That's the idea. Assuming they have the same number of cores.
Caporegime
I know, we had them too, sold to us as marvellous..... the next level in PC's..... absolute junk.
I said before all of this, we're not "100% there" with ARM/x86 parity across all product lines at this moment, but we're getting there and 2020 is when Apple got to parity. 2021 or 2022 is where other ARM processors will, unless Intel and AMD push ahead again at a faster rate.
Caporegime
Not sure what your point is, these are 2-year-old ARM cores at low clocks, compared to x86 CPUs with (sometimes significantly) higher core counts. How does that even relate to what Apple is doing with their A-series chips?
Caporegime
https://www.techspot.com/review/1607-hp-envy-x2/page2.html
Not 100% there indeed lol, an 8 Core ARM chip getting smashed by a dual core with HT.
It's not exactly easy to find decent comparisons.
Not 100% there indeed lol, an 8 Core ARM chip getting smashed by a dual core with HT.
It's not exactly easy to find decent comparisons.
Caporegime
Those EPYC CPU's are running at little over 2Ghz.
That's a Power9, The strongest version ARM have, its whats in those ARM servers you like talking about, the ones that prove ARM are as good as Intel / AMD... Not.. What secrete source are Apple doing to make them many multiple factors faster?
Or is it all just faked marketing? you know, Like how Intel like to use specific versions of Sandra to show how good their CPU's are.....
Dude, Power9 is not ARM.
Seriously, you just don't have any idea what you're talking about. I'm done.
Caporegime
WTF has ARM got to do with Ryzen? What has an ARM Mac got to do with Ryzen CPUs in DIY builds?
There is a whole subforum for Macs and some people can make their own threads - oh wait they did:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/is-x86-on-its-way-out.18891205/
Everyone lost interest so now the same poster is trying to swamp this thread....and not the Intel ones. Even if Apple has this "revolutionary" CPU,then unless you want to buy a Mac,then for most of the people following this thread it is not of any relevance . It was the same with their G3,G4 and G5 CPUs - all "revolutionary" but not relevant to the average person buying a PC either.
There is a whole subforum for Macs and some people can make their own threads - oh wait they did:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/is-x86-on-its-way-out.18891205/
Everyone lost interest so now the same poster is trying to swamp this thread....and not the Intel ones. Even if Apple has this "revolutionary" CPU,then unless you want to buy a Mac,then for most of the people following this thread it is not of any relevance . It was the same with their G3,G4 and G5 CPUs - all "revolutionary" but not relevant to the average person buying a PC either.
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