AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

[pmc25]

Latency is rumoured to go down quite a bit with Zen 3. Would be disappointing if they can't do this on their last AM4 chips with DDR4 IMO. It will help against Intel in gaming quite a lot apparently.

I would imagine that a large part of the expected 17% rise in IPC is due to improvements in IF, the memory controller, and cache design. But like I said, Zen 4 should bring 5nm EUV, DDR5 .. and there's a good chance the I/O die moves to 7nm, which may offer its own performance improvements for the MC ... I can't imagine their new flagship products' IO die will still be on GF 12 / 14nm FF in mid 2021.

 

[Grim5]

More sales records for Ryzen

https://twitter.com/TechEpiphany/status/1226488756812861441?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1226488756812861441&ref_url=https://www.redditmedia.com/mediaembed/f1fna9?responsive=true&is_nightmode=false

CPU Retail Sales for 2020 (Mindfactory Week 6) - Record Week for AMD

#AMD: 5155 units sold, 85.85% (+2.85%)
#Intel: 850 units sold, 14.15% (-2.85%)

#AMD: Revenue: 1'112'110 Euro, 82.34%
#Intel: Revenue: 238'530 Euro, 17.66%

 

[BigBANGtheory]

Are these desktop 4000's predicted for Q3 do we know or is it all still wrapped in mystery like the GPUs?

 

[FoxEye]

Are these desktop 4000's predicted for Q3 do we know or is it all still wrapped in mystery like the GPUs?

I believe it's all guesswork and speculation at this time, tho people have variously mentioned September and October as "likely" dates.

Could be any time, really. Nothing is known for sure.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

Are these desktop 4000's predicted for Q3 do we know or is it all still wrapped in mystery like the GPUs?

I feel we might start getting information around May/June time but I wouldn't expect release until September/October at the earliest.

 

[FoxEye]

I feel we might start getting information around May/June time

I can corroborate that with the tea-leaves I read this morning

 

[Deleted member 209350]

I feel we might start getting information around May/June time but I wouldn't expect release until September/October at the earliest.

My dads uncles cousin works for microsoft and i can confirm this is true

 

[0h_no_not_again]

I would imagine that a large part of the expected 17% rise in IPC is due to improvements in IF, the memory controller, and cache design. But like I said, Zen 4 should bring 5nm EUV, DDR5 .. and there's a good chance the I/O die moves to 7nm, which may offer its own performance improvements for the MC ... I can't imagine their new flagship products' IO die will still be on GF 12 / 14nm FF in mid 2021.

It will be really revealing to see when the IO die moves to 7nm/5nm. At the moment GloFo 12Nm has fantastic IO libraries that outperform TSMC and Intel, and obviously something that is critical for an IO die. Worth noting that the 12Nm bigger node and substrate is inherently better for lower power and heavy IO work, especially for really high frequency stuff like DDR5 and PCIe4.0.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

My dads uncles cousin works for microsoft and i can confirm this is true

Wow, he must know my brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.

 

[LePhuronn]

Wow, he must know my brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.

So what does that make us?

 

[Sargatanas2511]

So what does that make us?

Absolutely nothing, which is what you are about to become.

 

[MyBrainz]

So what does that make us?

Distant bull*******s

 

[Smiffy-UK]

My dads uncles cousin works for microsoft and i can confirm this is true

This reminds me of this quote from hot fuzz.

"yeah he's aunt jackie's sister's brother's boy"

 

[TNA]

Distant bull*******s

 

[LePhuronn]

Absolutely nothing, which is what you are about to become.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

There's never a bad time to quote Spaceballs!

Back on topic though, my guesses were not based on any kind of fact, just my opinion. I don't see Zen 3 being pushed back as far as 2021.

 

[Deleted member 209350]

Zen3 is likely to be released quite late this year, I would say September onwards.

 

[humbug]

Zen3 is likely to be released quite late this year, I would say September onwards.

^^^

 

[wazza300]

Derek acorah just whispered in my ear,says sam said they will be out in a week or two

 

[Alex h]

Derek acorah just whispered in my ear,says sam said they will be out in a week or two