The DDR socket 754 and 939 boards don’t fit.
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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.
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The DDR socket 754 and 939 boards don’t fit.
Everything has a beginning and an end!
And a middle.
Especially if they up the core count of the CCX's, which I don't think they will do for Zen4. AMD are doing well at the moment but they should be doing better given the performance/power differences. It's been small gains for AMD so far but with Zen4 I can see them taking 30-40% of the server market *if* Intel has nothing but hot air to combat them.
AMD has been executing very well for 3 years bringing predicted gains when they said they would whilst Intel have been over promising and under-delivering, if not blatantly lying, basically anything Ryan Shrout says, eventually the server guys cannot be bribed any more to take Intel over AMD.
Yeah, a friend of mine setup a data centre with Intel. He is now kicking himself as he has placed the firm at a serious disadvantage. AMD are literally twice as good.
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If this is true, AMD really are back in it.
Crazy to think where they were a few years ago, now if only they could kick their high end GPU's into shape.
Crazy to think where they were a few years ago, now if only they could kick their high end GPU's into shape.
If the game(cyberpunk) is grinding to a unacceptable framerate it's more likely because of gameworks and no amount of hardware, be it from AMD, Intel or nVidia(funny enough) is going to solve that issue for you
. Still excited for CP2077!!
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Based on that, every Intel board is EOL on launch
Yup absolutely pathetic by them, AM4 has really shown it up for what it is imo (an extra fundraiser).
amd are still slower than intel currently in games. so all this will do is make games on par then. with old intel. intel said they will have new stuff for 2021. so basically amd doing what they always do release new at the end of a old intel cpu life to make it look better.
So the AMD hype train now has wings and a jet engine 
It's coming late 2020 as far as we know. What "late" means is anyone's guess tho.
And yeah, it's going to need a decent boost to beat Intel in games. For me, since I don't spend all day compressing videos or zipping/unzipping files, that's the most important metric.
It's coming late 2020 as far as we know. What "late" means is anyone's guess tho.
And yeah, it's going to need a decent boost to beat Intel in games. For me, since I don't spend all day compressing videos or zipping/unzipping files, that's the most important metric.
I'll believe it when I see it. Preorder's and hype belong in the "Never do" category imho, even if it is difficult, at times, to not jump on board.
I guess since you lost the ability to say that Intel owns on all fronts with the recent bashing of the 10xxx HEDT CPUs and their server cpu's looking like a bigger and bigger joke everyday, you only have this one stick left to beat on the drum with. The funny thing is though, that stick of yours, is not as big as you make it out to be.
I guess since you lost the ability to say that Intel owns on all fronts with the recent bashing of the 10xxx HEDT CPUs and their server cpu's looking like a bigger and bigger joke everyday, you only have this one stick left to beat on the drum with. The funny thing is though, that stick of yours, is not as big as you make it out to be.
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actually it will smash intel In games
It's so close already that amd wins in a few games already
few games in benchmarks shown to favour amd. the reality is over most games intel are still in front by about the percentage of whats to be gained. intel have said they have nothing to respond until 2021. so basically its hold fort until then which they know they can do with current line ups. thats why amd has put the ball in users to argue this. clever move. amd users will argue the point as you as a amd user are not going to admit to buying a slower gaming chip as you brought it. its the ultimate con. this is why you should never buy on brand biased. ignore brands just buy either what suits budget. or...buy whats best for what you do at time of buying.
As per Hardware Unboxed's 30 game test, a stock 9900k is just 5% faster in games than a stock 3900x.
Assuming all rumors are true, the 10900k will run all core 4.9ghz out of the box assuming your cooling can keep up. So that's 200mhz extra over the 9900k. That represents a lead over a stock 3900x of up to 10%.
But the Ryzen 4000 gets 17% IPC and extra 100Mhz, which may very well exceed past that 10% difference. Some of it comes down to how much further the memory latency drops.
at end of the year as the new intel cpus drop. as said amd always launch new stuff on the tail end of intels last cpus. so it looks fast. they one step behind even on old cpus. then get amd users to fight the fight. then new intel stuff drops....boom.behind again. people call intel dead platform. when you always ahead what does it matter ?
Not touching Intel unless they manage to get a huge lead or something. We all see what they get like when they have most of the market share, they charge silly prices and stop innovation. They innovated so little and kept prices high that I kept my 4770K for over 6 years...
The performance I have now with my Ryzen 3600 would have cost me around treble if not for AMD stepping up. Not to mention the dozens of security issues that they never fix. Besides for my gaming needs which is 4K60FPS there is no difference in performance as I am either GPU bound or hit my fps cap way before running out of grunt from the CPU.
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Intel are just a hot and hungry meme these days, Zen 3 will put casket lake in the ground in terms of gaming if the vastly improved latency holds true.
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