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Journey said:
£349-59 if you looked in the right places. ;)

They aren't good value though will be the response, as the 3700X could be bought for £199 for one day from one shop in the past. So that is the benchmark apparently.
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I do agree that the price increase is naff and that shouldn't be under stated.

But there's been plenty of quality options in the last year or so
 
Martini1991 said:
@FoxEye 3900X's were available Q1 of 2020 for £380.

I know, because I bought two for custom build's at work for some heavy duty machines.

In all honesty, we've never had it this good for CPU's the last year, I mean right now it's a bit meh for buying, but the 5800X was also £380 the other week.
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We've had had 6 cores for £140 and 8 cores for £200-£250.

The current prices are worse than "meh". A blanket increase of $50 for all products in the range was also fairly crap. $50 on $700 is not a lot, but $50 on $250 is 20% price hike!

And that's without mentioning (until now :p) the loss of the cheapest SKUs. Which now do not look like being reintroduced. AMD is going after your cash and going after it hard.
 
Journey said:
£349-59 if you looked in the right places. ;)

They aren't good value though will be the response, as the 3700X could be bought for £199 for one day from one shop in the past. So that is the benchmark apparently.
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The 8 cores were routinely £250 too. £200 was a special offer sure, but £250 - £380 is one hell of a price hike!
 
Martini1991 said:
I do agree that the price increase is naff and that shouldn't be under stated.

But there's been plenty of quality options in the last year or so
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Part of me perversely hopes there will be $50 price hikes every year, so the smugness can end and more people start to see what AMD as another money-grabbing corp no different from Intel.
 
I tend to think if you are super tight and want a good bargain the 10400F at £118 is a great option, put it with a cheap B460 board and 16GB DDR4 and you get change from £250.

I am sure there is something wrong with that as well though.
 
Martini1991 said:
Why didn't you buy a 2700 etc?
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What, now, or when they were current gen?

Now, because they're two gens old. When they were current, because I wasn't thinking about upgrading back then.

e: I upgrade about once every 5-8 years. Or when I can be bothered. This 2500k is on course to hit its 10-year anniversary! A first even for me.
 
FoxEye said:
Part of me perversely hopes there will be $50 price hikes every year, so the smugness can end and more people start to see what AMD as another money-grabbing corp no different from Intel.
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Does anyone think AMD doesn't want to grab your money? Of course they want to maximize profit, and will price accordingly to the current market.
 
I feel like CPU price hike was overall better for supply. New CPUs bring tangible performance improvements at last, so thats worth something.

If new generation of GPUs were priced +30% or +50% out the door, given same supply, there would be fewer scalpers/miners grabbing those. And gamers would have a chance of getting one.

I would much rather give money to money-grabbing companies who actually produce new stuff than to resellers (and keeping bitcoin crowd from getting those is an added bonus)
 
alec said:
I feel like CPU price hike was overall better for supply. New CPUs bring tangible performance improvements at last, so thats worth something.

If new generation of GPUs were priced +30% or +50% out the door, given same supply, there would be fewer scalpers/miners grabbing those. And gamers would have a chance of getting one.

I would much rather give money to money-grabbing companies who actually produce new stuff than to resellers (and keeping bitcoin crowd from getting those is an added bonus)
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OCUK now sell with a 50% premium on top and they still sell out in seconds, if anything it's the miners who are happy to pay the higher prices as they can still sell the card in a few months for the same price they paid and all the time spent mining in between is all profit.
 
Journey said:
I tend to think if you are super tight and want a good bargain the 10400F at £118 is a great option, put it with a cheap B460 board and 16GB DDR4 and you get change from £250.

I am sure there is something wrong with that as well though.
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not managed to find it under £128 this week but you are right as a gaming chip
 
Game said:
not managed to find it under £128 this week but you are right as a gaming chip
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Prices are dropping almost daily on most Intel parts, 10700K for under £300 (KF at <£275), 10850K for under £350. I've not recommended many AMD systems recently if on a budget, unless people were using something like a 3100 as a stop gap and waiting for 5900X stock etc.

Lets see what AMD do to respond with pricing once the 11th Gen SKU's are officially announced, I'd imagine you'll see the appearance of the lower end SKU's that people think aren't going to appear, and the prices will be suitably competitive.
 
I was keeping an eye on the 10600k/ 10600k plus seeing whats the deal on the rocket lake

i have a couple off weeks to play with so will wait for the rocket lake stats first
 
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