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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

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FoxEye said:
I can't see how. I just repeated what AMD themselves said. That they had "no plans."

I didn't even change the wording.
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You were wrong when you suggested they can't just lie and that there would be issue with stating they had no plans. That just is fabricated nonsense. Not that they currently state they have no plans.
 
Curlyriff said:
You were wrong when you suggested they can't just lie and that there would be issue with stating they had no plans. That just is fabricated nonsense. Not that they currently state they have no plans.
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I won't for a second pretend to be a lawyer or expert in business law.

But there have been class action lawsuits against companies that mislead consumers and/or investors. Sometimes not just about products but about their business plans. I'm sure I can dig up cases if you wish.

I'm happy to be corrected by an actual legal expert in that regard. In fact that very line I prefixed with "AFAIK" so as to leave some room for doubt.
 
I wonder if they will raise the prices again or if the XT versions will drop in at current prices and non XTs get a 50 quid cut.
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
Don't understand the point of releasing them at all, they'll be the same as the other XT chips.
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Shameless marketing shennanigans... there would next to nothing practical about the release unless they slotted in at current prices and the 5900x CPU's lowered in price. Fat chance of that, though.
 
don't see why 5950XT would not be more expensive. It is a literal halo product. Refreshed/binned version of most powerful (and already binned) desktop CPU for which there is already a high demand.
I can see 5600XT releasing at 5600X price, moving the 5600X to a cheaper segment. Currently in 6-core market Intel looks better price/performance wise.
 
Well, AMD released a statement about the B2 revisions:
As part of our continued effort to expand our manufacturing and logistics capabilities, AMD will gradually move AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Desktop Processors to B2 Revision over the next 6 months. The revision does not bring improvements in terms of functionality or performance, furthermore, no BIOS update will be required.
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As reported by
https://www.computerbase.de/2021-05...auf-refresh-mit-b2-stepping-und-bis-zu-5-ghz/
who based this on a story by
https://www.benchmark.pl/aktualnosci/amd-ryzen-5000-co-wprowadzaja-procesory-w-nowej-rewizji-b2.html
So maybe there will be some more overclocking headroom but no new launch, binning or price increases.
 
clv101 said:
Sweet, just what I've been waiting for!
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Well, okay but if the revision does bring another 100MHz or so in overclockability or a better change to get what are currently golden samples, they would hardly go out of their way to say so and depress current sales, would they?

Probably 100MHz is about all we can expect as otherwise they might have done an XT release.

As long as the revised stepping isn't worse the B2 should be (slightly) preferred by us.
 
humbug said:
How does a B2 revision "expand manufacturing and logistics capabilities" ?
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Waffle daffle.
But trying to interpret corpo speak, it might be because yields will go up?
Although we already expect yields to be very good for those small 83mm² chiplets.
Maybe only few dies currently make the cut for 5950X or even some EPYC SKU?
 
Won't eb a change in process or anything like it, its just higher yields, with better overall expected output, perhaps on another line, but there will be no architecture change, else they'd have been shouting long and hard regarding it
 
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