I've heard conflicting rumours about this, suppose we'll see what they end up releasing.
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RTX 4090 only gets 40FPS-50FPS with DLSS off at 4K with Ray Tracing.
Added Intel run RTX 4090 7700X amd
intel 12600k 5100mhz
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RTX 4090 only gets 40FPS-50FPS with DLSS off at 4K with Ray Tracing.
Added Intel run RTX 4090 7700X amd
intel 12600k 5100mhz
There is an RT update coming for the game at before the end of the year and that will enable SER for RTx4000 cards. Nvidia says this will improve framerates a further 40% at 4k with all RT effects maxed out. So your native 40-50fps would become 56-70fps
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Makes sense. Chiplet ryzens incur extra latency as even single threaded tasks jump across the ccds. I suppose this issue b comes more noticeable the more cpu bottlenecked you are
That's why I asked if someone has done a cpu comparison with the 4090 yet
That's why I asked if someone has done a cpu comparison with the 4090 yet
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Capframex have done some testing too and just reported 7950x CCD0 frequency is much higher than CCD1. Metro exodus running single CCD got 176fps but with the chip running at stock only got 151fps. Presumably older lower spec chips will perform better in games than newer high core count chips
@Gibbo - Hi, is Overclockers getting in any Asus B650 Prime (including non wifi models) motherboards anytime soon?
Also, are you planning to add any ASRock B650 boards for sale on the website?
Is wider availability expected by the end of October?
Also, are you planning to add any ASRock B650 boards for sale on the website?
Is wider availability expected by the end of October?
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Nice, found a website that has B650 ASRock motherboards in stock. The question is, should I buy one?
Seems like all but the micro ATX boards are a bit expensive. Can you easily install everything on a micro motherboard, including NVME drives?
Seems like all but the micro ATX boards are a bit expensive. Can you easily install everything on a micro motherboard, including NVME drives?
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So, this appears to be one game where I would likely notice an improvement with a 7700X, especially in minimum framerates:
www.overclock3d.net
Minimum of 84 according to OC3D, for the WH3 campaign benchmark, which seems to have been managed even with 4800 MT/s DDR5 and a last gen RTX 2080 TI.
When I run this, my 1% low is around 40 FPS according to Nvidia's performance overlay, and I notice quite a log of stuttering, even with the GPU utilization only reaching 40% (testing with the lowest resolution possible).
I'm unsure if it's a memory bandwidth bottleneck, or the CPU. It seems likely to be the CPU, since some of the cores are reaching 100% utilization at some points, and I haven't even set all the settings to the maximum.
It seems likely that poorly optimized games like AC:Odyssey would have much better minimum framerates also.
EDIT - I suspect that because my motherboard limits the CPU cache ratio to 43 (4300mhz), that this is likely to be causing framerate dips, strategy games in particular seem to benefit from CPU cache.
When I was messing about with overclocking settings a few months ago, I tried lowering the CPU cache ratio to see what effect it would have in Warhammer III, and it butchered the framerate...
AMD Zen 4 Ryzen 7 7700X and Ryzen 9 7950X Review - OC3D
Total Warhammer 3 Whilst nowhere near as fun to play as its predecessor â yet â the latest version of the Games Workshop IP in a Creative Assembly platform looks ridiculously attractive and so fits in here neatly.   Â
Minimum of 84 according to OC3D, for the WH3 campaign benchmark, which seems to have been managed even with 4800 MT/s DDR5 and a last gen RTX 2080 TI.
When I run this, my 1% low is around 40 FPS according to Nvidia's performance overlay, and I notice quite a log of stuttering, even with the GPU utilization only reaching 40% (testing with the lowest resolution possible).
I'm unsure if it's a memory bandwidth bottleneck, or the CPU. It seems likely to be the CPU, since some of the cores are reaching 100% utilization at some points, and I haven't even set all the settings to the maximum.
It seems likely that poorly optimized games like AC:Odyssey would have much better minimum framerates also.
EDIT - I suspect that because my motherboard limits the CPU cache ratio to 43 (4300mhz), that this is likely to be causing framerate dips, strategy games in particular seem to benefit from CPU cache.
When I was messing about with overclocking settings a few months ago, I tried lowering the CPU cache ratio to see what effect it would have in Warhammer III, and it butchered the framerate...
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Do AMD have anything like Intel’s “KS”? I’m aware of the 3d chip, but that’s not the same. Have they ever brought something similar out so soon after releasing a CPU ?
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Seems mad to me that Intel bring out a KS version very soon after releasing the main chip. Very similar with Nvidia and the Supers etc.
I’m getting too old. In my day the game was on cassette, and there were no updates
That's not the same thing though. The KS isn't new or revised silicon, it's just uber tier, exclusive binning that Intel will guarantee will hit the very top clocks. And will then charge a premium for that guarantee, something that only the hardcore overclockers or Intel fans will pay for. Plenty of people got KS-level clocks out of K parts (and often even going beyond) because they were lucky to get high-quality silicon, but the KS is a guarantee for the limited stock they will specifically bin.
It was the same with the 8086K. Nothing more than a highly binned 8700K that Intel could segment out for the anniversary, guarantee and extra margin, evidenced by the proportion of "regular" 8700K units that could match or beat the 8086K drastically dropping once the 8086K became a thing.
The XT lineup was a noticeably different stepping, so arguably refined silicon that yielded the improved clocks. Intel's KS is just a K that's ben explicitly binned for the top clocks, and therefore sold at a premium because of the clock guarantee that comes with it.
Would be interesting to see CPU perf. in a taxing region. See here: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...il-go-go-go-xd.18951023/page-38#post-35820151
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Interesting. Especially the fact that you could end up with a better chip in the k than the ks if you get lucky.
Thanks for the info.