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*** AMD "Zen 4" thread (inc AM5/APU discussion) ***

Steedie said:
Do we think that BIOS updates will fix the long boot times on Zen 4? It's only really cold boots but my Crosshair Hero takes about 20 seconds to post from pressing the power button. I was worried it was me but Google suggests it's a pretty common issue across the AM5 platform
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Is this 20 seconds just to start loading windows? Or 20 seconds total to logon screen?
 
Dave2150 said:
Is this 20 seconds just to start loading windows? Or 20 seconds total to logon screen?
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20 seconds just for the board to post. Once it posts and the BIOS screen comes on, it's about 2-3 seconds in to the logon screen for Windows. It's just that initial time to post
 
JAMIE_CORTEZ said:
Think I saw a post somewhere saying this was RAM related? But that was weeks ago!
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Interesting. It's done it on my old Kingston Fury set at 5200MHz, and still does it now with the Corsair Dominator kit at stock and with the EXPO profile loaded. I know it's meant to do it the first time you put new RAM in while it does the RAM training, or if you change the EXPO profile or timings etc, but this seems to do it every time
 
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I suspect if you run that at 250 watts it will score around 35,000 to 37,000, which is slower than AMD, so 350 watts it is... could be 800 watts, could be 2000 watts, doesn't matter, if its faster than AMD, even by just 1%, which it is according to that chart, its all that matters.

Because we as consumer put bar charts above all else.
 
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I mean I was unlikely to get 13th gen anyway but at least I waited as it was only a week from when I had my cart full.
 
g67575 said:
There's been quite a lot of negativity since the announcement of X670 motherboard prices (which were obviously going to be expensive). People don't seem happy to pay £150-£200 for a B650 motherboard either, despite this being what previous generation boards were priced at on launch.

I think many people on these forums have already got a DDR5 LGA1700 system too, so it would be a sidegrade for them, unless buying an expensive 7950X, which would only be a benefit for multithreaded software.

I bought a Ryzen 7700X (with a 10% discount) a couple of days ago, but I'm waiting for greater availability of B650 boards and hopefully a DDR5 RAM price cut before building the system.
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Thanks mate. Hope you get your rig updated soon.
 
My issue is not knowing what good value is. For example, I saw some DDR5 6000 CL34 for £225. Seemed less than others but still not sure if it was good.
I guess ignorance is bliss in my case and if I'm happy with the price then perhaps it's irrelevant.
 
Demand drops like a rock, and instead of lowering prices they lowered the production. Amd lol

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AMD Cuts Down Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" Production As Demand Drops Like a Rock

AMD reportedly scaled down production of its Ryzen 7000 series desktop processors in response to bleak demand across the PC hardware industry. Wccftech claims to have read an internal company document calling for reduced supply to the channel as market response to the Ryzen 7000-series is weak...
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Motherboard prices are high, ddr5 still isn't as cheap as ddr4 so yeah not shocking it won't sell as much

Zen4 3d+ b650e is still my goal at some point hopefully by that time board and ddr5 would have dropped
 
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Its the platform as a whole why people won't want to move - cost for new CPU/RAM/Board is just off-putting.

It only says desktop so they will prob just shift the allocation to server where they make more money anyways.
 
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