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AMD Zen 5 rumours

X3d Cinebench r23 leaks

9800x3d
Single: 2145
Multi: 23315

9950x3d
Single: 2240
Multi: 42375


That makes 9000x3d 10-28% faster in cinebench compared to 7000x3d

If these numbers are true, it means 9000x3d clockspeed must be significantly higher than 7000x3d, it's likely that 9000x3d is running the same clockspeed as 9000 non x3d; meaning AMD has fixed the clockspeed limitations of X3D, assuming these numbers are legit of course

It would also be another slap in the face of anyone who bought non X3D Ryzen 9000 CPUs lol; when a couple months later X3D launches and it has no downside and only upsides
 
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Why? we all know they are coming.

Yes that's true, I'm more referring to the cinebench result suggesting 9000x3d has the same clocks as 9000, which is different to 7000x3d and 5000x3d, which both have lower clocks than non x3d models, so non gamers and early adopters could still buy non x3d CPUs and think they bought the right model because their use cases are not cache dependent and they just need high clock speed and multithread performance, but now that difference may be gone and non X3D models are simply a downgrade vs X3D.

Unless the X3D models get a price hike, then that would make more sense if they charge a 10-20% premium for the vcache. Currently that premium isn't there when I checked; a 7950x and 7950x3d can be found or the same price, and one has higher clocks than the other and one has more cache than the other but if 9950x3d is faster than 9950x in every type of workload then surely the price won't be the same, surely it will be 10 or 20% higher
 
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I think that’s a fair choice…

But I’ve got to say, having bought a 9950x, I’ve not been more impressed by a CPU for quite some time.

Granted I came from a 3950x, so the uplift was always going to be substantial, but what I really was not expecting was how incredibly well these chips overclock. The architecture seems to have plenty of headroom; which I don’t think many of the reviewers have touched on at all.

PBO all core negative 30, with another -10 on mid and high loads thanks to the new curve shaper is absolutely rock solid; and it’s pushed my chip to just under 49k in cinebench; without barely touching the sides in terms of tuning.

I’m all about productivity, so my view may not align with those of you who focus purely on gaming, but this has been a fantastic generation for me.

My first ryzen was the 3950x and I came from an 8700k. I was blown away by the multithread performance - the cinebench scores were like 3 times higher and it cost a fraction of what Intel had that could compete, which was the expensive 10980xe
 
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I love AMD, but really......back to bed, Zzzz Zzzz Zzzz, they compared obviously a 9800X3D 8 core part against a 7950X3D 16 core part...............the 7800X3D already beats the 7950X3D.


That's not what the slides say, slides say it's 9950x3d vs 7950x3d and 9800x3d vs 7800x3d. Look at them again
 
Hmm, watched and have to say IMO it was an awful video.

The arguments were:

"The reviewers didn't tweak the 9700X to max performance before testing"

"reviewers use the wrong settings to test, it should be 1080p, but actually they DO use 1080p but HUB used ultra settings"

"They didn't use 24H2 but then did but that doesn't actually make a massive difference "

"I tested the 7800x3d with 6000MT RAM as it doesn't care as much about RAM speed, here's some benchmarks that show it does improve performance a bit but I'm going to use the slower RAM anyway"

"My benchmarks show the 7800X3D is faster and more efficient than the 9700X when I tune the 9700X including using faster memory, adding a 100mhz boost override, bumping infinity fabric speed and unlocking the power limit"

Nonsense.


lol those complaints are hilarious in retrospect because Intel fans have spent the last couple years saying those same things about ever Intel review; there is even entire YouTube channels, like Framechasers, dedicated to coming out with coping mechanisms and excuses
 
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Yes and you all know Prime 95 is the best way to test RAM :D

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That means it could be even worse; since prime95 is not the best memory stability test, so even fewer boards may be capable of 8000, ouch!
 
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It can, as I have 8200 working at the moment with no real issues. I thought it would be good to post an 8000 example with a bit more detail than what HUB did.

8400 is a bit more of an faf but not looked at that in any great detail

I think HUB maxed out at 8300 on the same board, so sounds about right
 
Seems like global price cut hit before x3d launches to catch any straglers

Real G's know now is the time for diamond hands, hold for the 3D Cache glory that's coming, hold to be blessed by Lisa's joy.
This should be called no fap tap October; don't you dare tap that buy button!
 
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Can 99.99% gaurantee it's all BS and the performance will be within margin of error to any other board
 
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