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AMD Zen 6 rumours

Yea I tested the iGPU on my 7800X3D in DayZ and it was playable with Low settings, bad idea to exclude it IF true. Like others have said, its a godsend for dGPU troubleshooting.

I might have 4 displays already but if I want to add my 120Hz 4K OLED TV in the mix the iGPU makes it possible as long as I set all the other displays to 120Hz too.
It's also pretty much what's needed for handheld gaming
 
It is maybe a waste of silicon for 99% of the time you're not having problems with your discrete card.
Perhaps they should bundle in a desktop-only capable igpu instead of adding full basic gaming igpu.
 
Die size is limited so maybe it was choice between the two and they went with marketing NPU since the GPU is only for troubleshooting as OEM's don't even use those cpu either.
 
Die size is limited so maybe it was choice between the two and they went with marketing NPU since the GPU is only for troubleshooting as OEM's don't even use those cpu either.

I remember Lisa telling some dude from Microslop "i hope its worth it, the die space is expensive" in reference to the NPU live on stage.
 
"A new Geekbench listing has revealed another engineering sample of AMD's upcoming Zen 6-based Medusa Point APU. The 10-core Ryzen 9 processor reportedly delivers significantly higher single- and multi-core performance than current Strix Point chips despite operating at an early engineering sample clock speed of around 2 GHz. The benchmark also hints at FP16 AVX-VNNI instruction support, potentially improving AI and machine learning workloads."


There is also this;

 
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Zen 6 EPYC Venice launching this month, no word yet on Zen 6 Ryzen.

Interesting that it comes with PCIe 6.0. I doubt we'll see that on consumer platforms as Zen 6 Epyc is on a new socket but there are redundant pins on AM5 that might enable it
 
Interesting that it comes with PCIe 6.0. I doubt we'll see that on consumer platforms as Zen 6 Epyc is on a new socket but there are redundant pins on AM5 that might enable it

Yeah, think what they will do is have a new motherboard with a new chipset and PCIe 6 to encourage you to buy a new motherboard with one.

Existing motherboard will simply remain with PCIe 5.
 
Interesting that it comes with PCIe 6.0. I doubt we'll see that on consumer platforms as Zen 6 Epyc is on a new socket but there are redundant pins on AM5 that might enable it
PCIe gen 6 probably does not need more pins, the pins just run at 2X the frequency. It will be like AM4 PCIe 3 gen to gen 4, some boards could do gen 4 but AMD would not allow it so it was disabled. It's down to the boards traces and re-timers.
 
PCIe gen 6 probably does not need more pins, the pins just run at 2X the frequency. It will be like AM4 PCIe 3 gen to gen 4, some boards could do gen 4 but AMD would not allow it so it was disabled. It's down to the boards traces and re-timers.

It was down to the motherboard manufacturer to qualify for gen 4. It seems most took the CBA route, which is understandable when new chipsets are on the horizon.
 
It was down to the motherboard manufacturer to qualify for gen 4. It seems most took the CBA route, which is understandable when new chipsets are on the horizon.
That’s not true, some motherboard manufacturers did enable PCIE gen 4 but then AMD blocked it with with future Agesa updates.

Here’s a post from Robert Hallock at the time confirming that much.

 
That’s not true, some motherboard manufacturers did enable PCIE gen 4 but then AMD blocked it with with future Agesa updates.

Here’s a post from Robert Hallock at the time confirming that much.

Yep, I didn't have any Gen4.0 devices to test with at the time, but there was a beta BIOS or two for my x370 Taichi with support (and people over on HOC forums saying they were running it without issues)
 
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