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unless you can cite a source for anything you put , then yes it is exactly what you are doing.
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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***
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unless you can cite a source for anything you put , then yes it is exactly what you are doing.
Soldato
1886 is DDR3, numb nuts. BWE can do 3400. I've told you what I've heard - you choosing not to believe it is entirely up to you, Humbug.
I'm trying to offer you a bit of insight, some people like to overclock memory, and there are reasonable gains there.
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I know what it is, makes no difference, a CPU's IMC is rated at a certain level, in my case 1866Mhz, anything over that is an overclock, the fact that its a DDR3 IMC makes no difference, a DDR4 IMC has the same principles.
Caporegime
Notice how he's now avoiding the claim about core clock speeds he made earlier.
Soldato
I do not claim to know how Zen architecture will work al all. The memory clocks will largely depend on the motherboard, the bios and whether the bus clock is locked IMO.
One of the few advantages with AMD processors including piledriver was the ability to raise the bus frequency from its base 200MHz to over 325Mhz on a decent motherboard. This gave the motherboard multiplyers a lot of freedom in setting up high memory clocks.
We shall await all these details with interest, motherboards as well as processors.
One of the few advantages with AMD processors including piledriver was the ability to raise the bus frequency from its base 200MHz to over 325Mhz on a decent motherboard. This gave the motherboard multiplyers a lot of freedom in setting up high memory clocks.
We shall await all these details with interest, motherboards as well as processors.
Soldato
PC4-2133 which launched with consumer platforms (X99) is rated for 2133. There are no kits available on the consumer market below this speed. If you find one, you're trying too hard
Not avoiding, I've told you one thing, you refuse to believe it therefore want irrefutable proof lol. I've already told you I'm in the same boat as you, I'm waiting to see it for myself.
Not possible to have a hardware discussion with someone who's blindsided like that.
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earlier you said :
I cited the JADEC source which shows they in fact have certified DDR4 @ 1600 and 1866 mhz. Which demonstrates you are incorrect about JADEC ram speed.
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Forgive me if I'm wrong but doesn't the 6900k only boost to 4k on a single core? In an application that uses all threads then it only hits it's 3.4ghz or whatever it is on all cores?
They showed RyZen with boost disabled matching this, which implies to me that their boost possibly affects all cores equally?
So on that basis if a default RyZen with disabled boost is already matching / beating a stock 6900k then surely a boost enabled version is going to be even better?
They showed RyZen with boost disabled matching this, which implies to me that their boost possibly affects all cores equally?
So on that basis if a default RyZen with disabled boost is already matching / beating a stock 6900k then surely a boost enabled version is going to be even better?
Caporegime
3.7 on all 8 and 4Ghz on one ^^^^ yes
Right, It does but there comes a point where high frequency memory can unsettle the CPU's IMC, unless there is something not right with Zen's IMC there is no reason why it can't run those 3200Mhz RAM's, provided the Motherboard can run them at that speed.
Silent_Scone is talking utter nonsense.
Right, It does but there comes a point where high frequency memory can unsettle the CPU's IMC, unless there is something not right with Zen's IMC there is no reason why it can't run those 3200Mhz RAM's, provided the Motherboard can run them at that speed.
Silent_Scone is talking utter nonsense.
Caporegime
That's not strictly true. The IMC is important, take Deneb, it was very poor, you pretty much couldn't run 1600MHZ stable.
Not that I personally care about memory clocking, even if Zens DDR4 IMC was poor, I couldn't give a rats arse.
Soldato
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You said "From what i hear" what exactly did you hear? i put it to you you made that up to try and look like someone you aint.
Soldato
And I cited the JADEC source demonstrating they also have 1600mhz and 1866mhz specifications which you reputed.
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I was also under the impression that memory overclocking doesn't really give any spectacular results in gaming? Am I mistaken? Do you get tangible FPS increases by overclocking ram?
Caporegime
a few 100Mhz, no, a Ghz or so, there is some, yes.
Soldato
This post basically shows what understanding you have.
There is no reason why Zen's IMC can't run 3200Mhz? There are 100 reasons why it couldn't, and likely won't. That being, it's not capable of doing so. For something to 'not be right', essentially it's weak. Zen has (or likely has) a weak memory controller.
Obviously from this response, this performance metric isn't important to you.
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Another thing anyone citing "sources I know" yada yada is laughable at best without being able to back it up, it's more like "I read it on the interwebz so must be true, will pass it off as my own"
Seriously you need a reality check mate, your starting to believe your own garbage
Seriously you need a reality check mate, your starting to believe your own garbage
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You're not able to get me any factual reason as to why not, ergo your claims of knowing is Bovine Manure.
You making claims of knowledge to try to prop up your blanket statements, and i don't believe a word of it.
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You need to read my posts better...
I can't argue with you, you don't even understand the concept of memory overclocking. You're boring me now. You believe whatever you want to believe and go back to discussing what you want Zen to be...