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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

AMD have lost the business and server market. They would do better focusing fully on gaming performance and continue to undercut Intel on pricing. They can't compete with Intel trying to be jack of all trades, they will just continue to get beat in every department.
 
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FlanK3r said:
Im looking forward for new ROG AM4 board and FX Zen :). It could be interesting SKylake vs Zen fight.
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Err, Zen is due for release in Q4 2016.

Intel are releasing their new generation 'Kabylke' in Q2 2016, so Zen will be too late to compete with Skylake.

That's assuming Zen actually launches in Q4 2016 - remember they are introducing a new architecture on a new process - something Intel can't/won't do. Intel always introduce their new architecture on a tried and tested process (the purpose of Intel's 'Tick').

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if by the time Zen launches, it will end up competing with 10nm Intel Cannonlake.
 
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Dayum Q4 2016 that's so far off. So basically all of 2016 would be a wash like 2015. Even the APU line is rumored to just be getting another generic refresh with Bulldozer in 2016, so there is nothing to look forward from AMD APU / CPU..

As long as AMD get a financial injection to hold them through until Zen and new GPU architectures they should be ok, very boring times though for AMD fans. Another year of nothing on the APU / CPU front..

By then Intel could have Broadwell - E and Kaby Lake already out and in circulation, with Skylake - E / Cannonlake on the horizon. Tough competition for Zen for sure.

So AMD's most interesting part for a while will be the Athlon X4 880K, don't see that as great money maker though, or a performance winner :P Great for budget gaming though.
 
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Boomstick777 said:
Dayum Q4 2016 that's so far off. So basically all of 2016 would be a wash like 2015. Even the APU line is rumored to just be getting another generic refresh with Bulldozer in 2016, so there is nothing to look forward from AMD APU / CPU..

As long as AMD get a financial injection to hold them through until Zen and new GPU architectures they should be ok, very boring times though for AMD fans. Another year of nothing on the APU / CPU front..

By then Intel could have Broadwell - E and Kaby Lake already out and in circulation, with Skylake - E / Cannonlake on the horizon. Tough competition for Zen for sure.

So AMD's most interesting part for a while will be the Athlon X4 880K, don't see that as great money maker though, or a performance winner :P Great for budget gaming though.
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The Athlon X4 880K would be a great budget CPU, though the problem with it is that it's running on a chipset from 2011 - which lacks native USB3, SATA3, PCI-E V3, M.2/U.2, NVME, the list could go on forever.

I'd not recommend such a platform for a brand new PC to anyone, regardless of budget.
 
Dave2150 said:
The Athlon X4 880K would be a great budget CPU, though the problem with it is that it's running on a chipset from 2011 - which lacks native USB3, SATA3, PCI-E V3, M.2/U.2, NVME, the list could go on forever.

I'd not recommend such a platform for a brand new PC to anyone, regardless of budget.
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You wouldn't recommend to anyone regardless of budget, but it would be a great budget CPU... Make your mind up :p

Cheap FM2+ Mobo + Athlon X4 880K would be ideal for budget PC. The FM2+ does have USB 3.0 + PCIe 3.0 x16 etc anyway..

Horses for courses.
 
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