*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[Silent_Scone]

Oh look, 4Ghz overclock :O

 

[Deleted member 66701]

I want a 6/12 or 8/16 that offers at minimum the same performance as my 4770k in single threaded stuff, as that means in multithreaded stuff i will get a nice boost. And i dont want to have to sell one of my kids to buy it

Ditto - I'm not looking for more performance than my 4770k, I just want more cores for a reasonable cost.

I think Ryzen might deliver on that for me.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

LOL,that "benchmark" was already posted and on AT forums they said the person with the same username had uploaded questionable benchmarks in the past. Also the terrain sample number is 16 million on the so-called Ryzen score and 12 million on the others.

 

[humbug]

Ashes of the Singularity Crazy 4K benchmark on 4GHz Ryzen CPU leaked!

http://wccftech.com/amd-ashes-ryzen-4-0-ghz-benchmarks/

Spoiler

Well the benchmark of 4GHz R7 8C/16T Ryzen with Titan X Pascal at 5,100 is not very impressive.

Stock 4C/8T Haswell 4790K with a GTX 1080 will smash it at higher score of 5,400:

http://www.ashesofthesingularity.co...-details/95e673f9-2824-4da5-8571-f6addf6368ee

Stock 4C/8T Haswell 4790K with a Titan X Pascal score 5,800:

http://www.ashesofthesingularity.co...-details/c03f9aba-c562-460e-95ae-6bc08a89c1b8

Stock 4C/8T Skylake 6700K with a Titan X Pascal score impressive 6,900:

http://www.ashesofthesingularity.co...-details/4ea54e6f-ce58-45dd-aec2-43d2a0f56d95

Shame nobody benchmarked it with Kaby Lake 7700K and uploaded result yet.

Its already been debunked as fake.

More fake news plz

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Its already been debunked as fake.

Yep,and this is what somebody on AT forums just posted!

 

[humbug]

That just says it all ^^^^^

Seriously just edit the XML, upload it and it will say literally anything you want it to. a point well made there.

'AMD_FanBoy' lol......

 

[KentMan]

Ashes of the Singularity Crazy 4K benchmark on 4GHz Ryzen CPU leaked!

http://wccftech.com/amd-ashes-ryzen-4-0-ghz-benchmarks/

Spoiler

Well the benchmark of 4GHz R7 8C/16T Ryzen with Titan X Pascal at 5,100 is not very impressive.

Stock 4C/8T Haswell 4790K with a GTX 1080 will smash it at higher score of 5,400:

http://www.ashesofthesingularity.co...-details/95e673f9-2824-4da5-8571-f6addf6368ee

Stock 4C/8T Haswell 4790K with a Titan X Pascal score 5,800:

http://www.ashesofthesingularity.co...-details/c03f9aba-c562-460e-95ae-6bc08a89c1b8

Stock 4C/8T Skylake 6700K with a Titan X Pascal score impressive 6,900:

http://www.ashesofthesingularity.co...-details/4ea54e6f-ce58-45dd-aec2-43d2a0f56d95

Shame nobody benchmarked it with Kaby Lake 7700K and uploaded result yet.

Queue yet more anti AMD from the guy who ironically has an AMD CPU as his forum handle.

As others have pointed out, that whole thing was a fake, but you still humiliate yourself by lobbing it on these forums as if its the truth... sad

 

[drunkenmaster]

Heh

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovation...ew-horizon&utm_medium=redirect&utm_source=301

@ 27.20 and onwards

Lisa Su "Lets talk clock speeds, i can tell you that Ryzen will have Base Clock Speeds of 3.4GHZ or Higher" they even show these on the slide behind her....

So yeah..AMD did say 3.4ghz base, Lisa Su said 3.4ghz Base

So i guess that Ryzen presentation is a fabrication then DM?

She stated the base clock is AT LEAST 3.4GHz, this is NOT the same as saying the base clock IS 3.4Ghz. We've already seen chips that have a 3.6Ghz base clock, we don't know if this is final but we can be fairly sure that 3.4Ghz is not the final base clock now. Again, stating a minimum expectation, which is all she said, is absolutely not the same as stating that 3.4Ghz is actually the final clock, you seem to be trying to imply otherwise so you can claim it doesn't look very impressive.

Second, not EVERY chip will have the same base clock. When Intel, AMD, any ARM based chip says something like "this chip will clock at 2.5Ghz" it doesn't mean every chip will, just the highest expected bin.

So the highest expected bin is likely to have a 3.6Ghz or higher base clock, there will be other chips with a lower base clock.

 

[karik666]

It sounded to me like lisa su said the lowest speed of a ryzen cpu is 3.4ghz.

 

[eddiew]

She stated the base clock is AT LEAST 3.4GHz, this is NOT the same as saying the base clock IS 3.4Ghz

To be fair, if it's 8c/16t at 3.4ghz base... that doesn't sound terrible, compared to a Xeon?

(Maybe I'm not reading the right specs, but I can't find an 8c over 2.4 base among the Xeon range, and afaik they're just i7s with more cache and no graphics...)

 

[Klo]

Ashes of the Singularity Crazy 4K benchmark on 4GHz Ryzen CPU leaked!

http://wccftech.com/amd-ashes-ryzen-4-0-ghz-benchmarks/

Spoiler

Well the benchmark of 4GHz R7 8C/16T Ryzen with Titan X Pascal at 5,100 is not very impressive.

Stock 4C/8T Haswell 4790K with a GTX 1080 will smash it at higher score of 5,400:

http://www.ashesofthesingularity.co...-details/95e673f9-2824-4da5-8571-f6addf6368ee

Stock 4C/8T Haswell 4790K with a Titan X Pascal score 5,800:

http://www.ashesofthesingularity.co...-details/c03f9aba-c562-460e-95ae-6bc08a89c1b8

Stock 4C/8T Skylake 6700K with a Titan X Pascal score impressive 6,900:

http://www.ashesofthesingularity.co...-details/4ea54e6f-ce58-45dd-aec2-43d2a0f56d95

Shame nobody benchmarked it with Kaby Lake 7700K and uploaded result yet.

As others have said, already been posted and suggested as fake. Sorry.

 

[Harlequin]

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_s_ryzen_cpu_lineup_has_been_leaked/1

zen lineup leaked

 

[harney]

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_s_ryzen_cpu_lineup_has_been_leaked/1

zen lineup leaked

 

[StarShock]

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_s_ryzen_cpu_lineup_has_been_leaked/1

zen lineup leaked

Not sure about the Intel competitor list? 6 core vs i5?

 

[DragonQ]

What's with the "pro" moniker?

 

[drunkenmaster]

To be fair, if it's 8c/16t at 3.4ghz base... that doesn't sound terrible, compared to a Xeon?

(Maybe I'm not reading the right specs, but I can't find an 8c over 2.4 base among the Xeon range, and afaik they're just i7s with more cache and no graphics...)

The somewhat comparable range would be the -E versions of the various chips, currently Broadwell-e. Also yes, 3.4Ghz would still be comparably good.

You have 6800k 6 core, 3.4Ghz base/3.6Ghz boost. 6850k same but 200Mhz more on both clocks, 6900k is a 8 core with 3.2Ghz base/3.7Ghz boost and 6950x 10 core 3Ghz/3.5Ghz clocks, all of which are 140W.

Previous gen chips are an odd one, the 4960x had 6 cores and 3.6/4Ghz base/boost clocks on 22nm and 10W lower TDP, so a bit odd that the Broadwells have gone backwards. Haswell-e had a 5960x 8 core with 3/3.5Ghz clocks.

So 3.4Ghz for an 8 core is more than competitive from AMD, Intel has as yet produced nothing over a 3.2Ghz base clock on a 8 or more cores part so far(there might be some other chip I missed but those are the main ones afaik).

It's worth noting though that the x99 platform chips do have quad channel memory and significantly bigger IO, both which add die size, power usage though these are also chips with 130-140W TDP where as the Zen chips shouldn't be going above 95W. Also worth noting is that quad channel memory gives literally no performance improvement in the vast majority of software, winrar/7-zip is almost entirely it. Handbrake, gaming, zero difference between dual/quad channel.


However it really looks like base clock will be 3.6-3.8Ghz, with boost 4-4.2Ghz. AMD were confident as the various steppings came back that 3.4Ghz base was basically easy and guaranteed, which is why they stated it will be at least 3.4Ghz, it was the base expectation. But less than a month later they were using 3.6Ghz base clock chips at CES, it would seem at this point 3.6Ghz.

Ultimately base clocks don't really matter to me personally, where it can overclock to without loud cooling and over the top power usage is what matters to me. It's also why I'll happily save £50-100 on the lower speed version and just overclock that to the same speed anyway. It's a case of buy the highest bin and overclock say 300Mhz, or by the slowest bin available and overclock by 1Ghz, but save £100, easy choice.

 

[Silent_Scone]

4.2? lol.

 

[iBSOD]

If overclocked Zen can score over 205 in R15 single thread I will buy one

 

[Sayso]

im saying stock 3.4 boost 3.8 on the big chip, again all depends on pricing (and if the results we have seen are not cherry picked and everywhere else it has bad performance)
if they can get the 8C/16T at around 5-600 quid they will clear up, will make it the CPU to get for most of us, its a shame if they dont bring out the 6c/12T cpu if they priced it at the intel 4C/8T chip they could make a killing...im keeping my fingers crossed but i have been burnt before by AMD (bulldozer im looking at you)

 

[Safetytrousers]

This is the most in-depth coverage of the present leak information I've seen:
http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-am4-processor-family-leak-r7-1800x-flagship/