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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

wiski said:
Aside from the obvious right now where Gigabyte is handling Ryzen better than the others, what is the thought process on them being better? Asking because I'm still trying to find a board in stock and one of them I was looking at was Gigabyte.
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You could get cheap Gigabyte (ud3 for example) that was easily doing 5Ghz on FX cpus (don't forget small cooler on vrm is a must). Basically try to google vrm+mosfets tech spec for our days(overclocking stability wise).

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5w5rc0/am4_motherboard_links_a320_added/
 
wiski said:
Aside from the obvious right now where Gigabyte is handling Ryzen better than the others, what is the thought process on them being better? Asking because I'm still trying to find a board in stock and one of them I was looking at was Gigabyte.
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All in all I had 4 different AM3 Gigabyte boards at some point or another and not one of them ever let me down. I bought one Asus board and that failed within a week
 
My last two boards have been Gigabyte (990FX & Z97). Both have been excellent, particularly the 990FX UD5 which allowed for a hefty overclock of my 8320. Gigabyte were my first point of call for Ryzen, but then people were talking about higher quality VRMs on the Hero and Taichi, so I started looking at Asus and Asrock. I might take another look at the Gigabyte boards now.
 
Loque said:
Thanks for that. I had 5 different DOCP options. The third one resulted in DDR4-3000 with bus speed 125.
Just before I set that, I got a CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT BSOD. No idea what that means
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option five i think 131 was the most reliable for me.

it might just be your memory atm though, TG xtreem memory that worked on the CH6 will not get into windows on the Prime x370 pro posts detects just hangs on load in, switched the ram straight into windows.
 
Scramz said:
Yes but not when manual overclocking and 4.3Ghz seems too high.
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To be honest, assuming correct, that sounds ideal. Boosting to 4.3 while gaming, presumably because you aren't fully saturating all cores, so because its cooler, it can give more boost? So long as temps ain't rocketing and it's stable, and correct, sounds great.

As for boards, I recently swapped my h87 gigabyte board for a z97 msi board, and I much preferred the gigabyte bios. I miss that board. And would happily buy another gigabyte board. But Scramz appears to be getting great results from his msi board, and that has me looking at them.

In other news, my 1700 has arrived. All I need now is the motherboard. Which I haven't decided on yet. But I have time as I'm currently out the country. Probably until early next week. :(
 
Adored TV does make some really good points. If you are building a system that you want to last for at least a few years then the 1700 is just going to get further and further ahead of the 7700k. Not to mention that if you get a top grade motherboard and AMD do stick to their plan then in two or three years you can drop a Zen++ into your existing board and get heaps more performance without having to drop the cash for a complete system change.

It is going to be really interesting to see what this does to the market share split over the coming quarters - Once we have the 6 core and a stable platform are the Big OEM's going to be producing Zen machines - and what will people choose then...
 
Beren said:
Adored TV does make some really good points. If you are building a system that you want to last for at least a few years then the 1700 is just going to get further and further ahead of the 7700k. Not to mention that if you get a top grade motherboard and AMD do stick to their plan then in two or three years you can drop a Zen++ into your existing board and get heaps more performance without having to drop the cash for a complete system change.
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Depends a lot on these forthcoming fixes boosting performance and developers actually supporting it. We've had multicore cpu's for over 10 years now and the amount of games that make use of a lot of threads is minimal.
 
Am I correct in thinking that maybe AMD has screwed up with the X370 chipset? Maybe this isn't going to get much better and they cut too many corners trying to make it cheaper than X99?
 
Doogles said:
Am I correct in thinking that maybe AMD has screwed up with the X370 chipset? Maybe this isn't going to get much better and they cut too many corners trying to make it cheaper than X99?
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Screwed up the chipset?? Why would you think that? Nothing wrong with the implementation, it's a new architecture that needs some OS patching and a few motherboard BIOS revisions to work out some kinks with the IMC.
 
Doogles said:
Am I correct in thinking that maybe AMD has screwed up with the X370 chipset? Maybe this isn't going to get much better and they cut too many corners trying to make it cheaper than X99?
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Just rushed motherboard releases, BIOS immaturity is a problem across the board at the moment, whether it be from disabled settings, poor memory support or boards bricking themselves
 
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