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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

In the end the whole point of going with higher core counts is to spread the workload across those cores and reduce power consumption.

Higher clock speeds just produce more heat and demand more power.

Despite most of us here being gamers who are chasing ultra settings on everything you'll find that most people are playing games on little more than a potato. A cpu that can scale across anything from a thin & light notebook to a power PC is going to be the way forward.

As more games utilise higher core counts then the ultimate clock speed will become less important. You shouldn't be disappointed that Ryzen chips are struggling to go past 4.0ghz, that's basically the way they are designed.
 
Enjoying this thread, makes a nice change to be discussing AMD in positive terms. It's certainly got me a lot more interested in PC tech again.

Good to see people are getting everything up and running now. After seeing the way condors were going I kept telling people 8 cores will be my next upgrade from my trusty 2500K. Targeting early 2018 now. Thinking I may even give Gigabyte motherboards a try having seen all the positive reports.
 
Troezar said:
Enjoying this thread, makes a nice change to be discussing AMD in positive terms. It's certainly got me a lot more interested in PC tech again.

Good to see people are getting everything up and running now. After seeing the way condors were going I kept telling people 8 cores will be my next upgrade from my trusty 2500K. Targeting early 2018 now. Thinking I may even give Gigabyte motherboards a try having seen all the positive reports.
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Yeah I've not used these forums for a couple of years but this has got me interested in tech again.
 
http://www.legitreviews.com/one-motherboard-maker-explains-why-amd-am4-boards-are-missing_192470

It’s all about the bad coordination, bad communication, bad support and bad timing to launch this platform in my opinion. With all these issues, none of us could start manufacture the boards sooner. Also, in January and February, all board vendors’ production lines were occupied with Intel 200 series boards before Chinese New Year and tried to ship as much boards as we can to ensure we won’t have stock issues while Asia was on New Year vacation.

In late December, AMD decided to pull in the launch date (it was scheduled to launch in late Q2) and launched it right after Chinese New Year but AMD keep the CPU supply quantity secret from us the whole time. They only shared the data 2 weeks before the launch, we didn’t understand why they were doing it. Also, their BIOS team and engineers were doing terrible jobs on supporting us on the BIOS microcode updates, driver updates, CPU samples for testing. They have done nothing they should have been doing to support the launch platform partners and always delay or give no response on support requests. We were all having huge issues to debug with limited AMD resource support including validating the parts, and fixing the memory clock speed that is all limited by AMD.

In general, it’s been too long for AMD to launch a new CPU, so they forgot how to do it, so they launched the CPU just like they were launching the graphics card. They didn’t care about the platform eco-system, so the eco-system is suffering and stock is delayed.

We are flying in new batches every 3 days to try to fulfill the back orders ASAP, so they should be all back in stock soon. With all the board reviews released, per Newegg and Amazon, the AMD memory limitation issue is slowing down the sales though.

We need your help to feedback that to AMD as well on their supports issues.” – Anonymous Motherboard Manufacturer
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Well, looks like I'll have to wait until Monday to get my board, even though it's sitting 30 minutes away from me right now. The place I ordered it from isn't able to authorize a hold request at the shipping location in time for me to pick it up tonight.

I guess I can spend some time prepping my EKWB parts if nothing else.
 
Curlyriff said:
Cheers ZED, I don't use that at home and our work system is plugged up and never thought about it but is it purely the power required that makes 5 USB needed? Could you use a splitter of a single USB C for instance to save using loads of USB ports?

Just that I see some the B350 boards have USB C and so again I am just thinking about cables and requirement for ports where we just used to it but are they really needed if we thought more about how we are connecting things up?
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Well 3x camera 1x bt dongle for touch/xbone gamepad 1x helmet. So all need full usb afaik that is main reason i went Crosshair over astock fatal1ty pro... Asrock got not enough ports and some useless shiet instead aka build in wifi.... Who to **** will use wifi over 5gb lan card for gaming?? Even better its got 2 lan cards.... Pro gamers play on cable !!!

But if asus dies i am considering moving to asrock...
 
I wonder why Sapphire didn't produce any X370 mobos.
Both their 990FX and especially the X79 Pure black were absolutely amazing boards, and very good performers compared to the rest of the competition also.
Especially the X79 one was trashing the MSI X79 GD65, Asrock X79 Extreme and the Asus one with the 3960X back in the day
 
1700, msi tomahawk b350 16gb corsair vengeance 3000.
Cant even run prime at stock settings without losing display.
Its beginning to wind me up now. I have a 7700k in my basket, one more thing goes wrong with this tonight and its on ebay. GRRRR
 
gavinh87 said:
1700, msi tomahawk b350 16gb corsair vengeance 3000.
Cant even run prime at stock settings without losing display.
Its beginning to wind me up now. I have a 7700k in my basket, one more thing goes wrong with this tonight and its on ebay. GRRRR
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Hmmmm, that's why I get - but running realbench. Screen goes blank, system unresponsive. That's with Asus Prime plus B350.
 
gavinh87 said:
1700, msi tomahawk b350 16gb corsair vengeance 3000.
Cant even run prime at stock settings without losing display.
Its beginning to wind me up now. I have a 7700k in my basket, one more thing goes wrong with this tonight and its on ebay. GRRRR
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Prime is unnatural mate, no cpu is ever going to be put under that load in real life usage, I have my 1700@ 3.8ghz 1.21v and under all stress tests(cini,real and cpuz) my temps max out at about 55c under prime they are at over 65c, luckily no crashes with either
 
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