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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

Yeah we've been over this. Kabylake destroys Ryzen in your opinion and you must convince everyone it's true.

In certain circumstances yes it does. But people posting comments saying otherwise like yourself need to stop lol.
The performance of ryzen is inconsistent, an i3 in some and an i7 in others.
 
Ryzen is always going to have consistency issues against current Intel CPU's due to a drastic difference in core for core performance when they're both clocked up. It's just a simple fact, one of the reasons I was so critical of the PD chips. That inconsistency isn't quite the same now (Well, maybe its losses are still a bit meh, but its victories are wayyyy higher now percentage wise) so I'm all for Ryzen. Can't wait to finally buy a Vega though, because my 290X is the bottleneck. But I can't in good faith currently buy a Vega. What a wreck of a launch.
 
Ryzen is always going to have consistency issues against current Intel CPU's due to a drastic difference in core for core performance when they're both clocked up. It's just a simple fact, one of the reasons I was so critical of the PD chips. That inconsistency isn't quite the same now (Well, maybe its losses are still a bit meh, but its victories are wayyyy higher now percentage wise) so I'm all for Ryzen. Can't wait to finally buy a Vega though, because my 290X is the bottleneck. But I can't in good faith currently buy a Vega. What a wreck of a launch.

Gamers nexus did a recent bench under the new agesa and 3466 ram. It did bring improvements but ultimately still lagging behind a 7600k.
I haven't seen any application benchmarks that show old Vs new performance.
 
Gamers nexus did a recent bench under the new agesa and 3466 ram. It did bring improvements but ultimately still lagging behind a 7600k.
I haven't seen any application benchmarks that show old Vs new performance.

Yep Ryzen is always doing that. You'd think AMD would do the decent thing just kill Ryzen with fire! But they just won't!
 
You two again. :p

Seems so :p
All of a sudden everyone has turned on Ryzen? :confused:

I thought everyone was happy with the product?

Well Gavin has pointed out how we have all been dupped into upgrading! It's all lies, damn lies I tell you.

Me and Gavin are going to put and ends this by selectively picking the bar charts that show the truth not the actual performance and arguing with anyone who dares question our bar charts off on tangents or until they give up!
 
All of a sudden everyone has turned on Ryzen? :confused:

I thought everyone was happy with the product?

People buy into hype. The problems the platform have are ignored, until they experience said problems and then change their opinion.

Ryzen has never and will never be perfect, but as someone who was very critical of Piledriver, I'm very happy with my Ryzen set up.
 
I really think I'm going to bite the bullet and get a 1500x and then something better when Zen+ hits around February.

All I do is play CSGO and my FX8320 at 4.5ghz is OK but drops frames when a lot of action on screen. Getting the 1500x to 3.8ghz seems easy enough and the power consumption will be considerably lower.
 
I really think I'm going to bite the bullet and get a 1500x and then something better when Zen+ hits around February.

All I do is play CSGO and my FX8320 at 4.5ghz is OK but drops frames when a lot of action on screen. Getting the 1500x to 3.8ghz seems easy enough and the power consumption will be considerably lower.

Good, may I suggest the 1600 at +£15 (£189), equal chance of 3.8GHz with two more cores.
 
I have found the 1500x at £157 - so that's why, otherwise I would grab the 1600 for sure. Also need to buy a NVME drive as well, so every penny counts.

OK good price. Will be a nice change / upgrade from the FX8xxx, I had that from launch as well as a 9590. The Ryzen is much quieter, cooler etc.
 
OK good price. Will be a nice change / upgrade from the FX8xxx, I had that from launch as well as a 9590. The Ryzen is much quieter, cooler etc.

Just hoping it'll bring the minimums up in CSGO. Obviously the 7700K would be ideal as it can get to 5Ghz, but I don't have that kind of money right now.
 
OK good price. Will be a nice change / upgrade from the FX8xxx, I had that from launch as well as a 9590. The Ryzen is much quieter, cooler etc.
Don't forget with the 'x' you will need your own cooler. The non-x one's come with one (but don't clock as high on stock settings)
 
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