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gavinh87 · 18 Oct 2017 at 15:36

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It looks like the Win10 Creators update has increased performance in GTAV by around 5% it seems:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/commen...utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=Amd

I wonder if it helps other applications too??

Forza has massively improved for me.

DragonQ · 18 Oct 2017 at 20:21

Hopefully the 6-8 core scheduler improvements aren't limited to chips made this decade.

I also hope I don't need to update my GPU drivers after this update since the new ones are still worse than my current ones.

Panos · 19 Oct 2017 at 10:46

chroniclard said:
Its the difficulty in obtaining rated speeds and/or overclocks for your average joe that is the main issue, imo.

Took me a while trawling forums for info to get mine running well! (Not to mention buying another set of ram and another motherboard )

Had no issue on my second try with the CH6 to get my 3600Mhz module to run at 3600Mhz using the custom pre-overclock profile (135.2 bus) and on the third bios change has it running at it's rated subtimings.(16/16/16/32/56)

First attempt failed, because the CH6 was too over generous with the power throwing to the DRAM 1.438v and crashed straight away. Lowering it to 1.37v had no issue since. (1.35v is the rated value).

At least the CH6 with 1701 bios feels more stable than the Gigabyte X99 UG, and greatly improved of what is was back in March.

Now need to figure which voltage values are correct, because I get conflicting readings.
CPU sensors state less vcore/soc voltage on both AMD Ryzen Master, and HWInfo.
Compared to CPUZ and motherboard sensors adding an extra 0.8v on the above numbers. And even if I am trying to force manual power on the bios to 1.44v the motherboard still displays 1.504v. (on 4125 core overclock with 3600mhz ram, over BLCK 135.2)

To add also, using Ryzen master, doesn't force voltage unfortunately, and ram speeds only go up to 3200 on the slider not 3600.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 19 Oct 2017 at 16:47

jaffveyda said:
People jumped on the update yesterday, all my OW friend list was empty.

It would be nice to see if Ryzen and CFL have improvements in games - might need someone to open a benchmarks thread.

gavinh87 said:
Forza has massively improved for me.

Good to hear! FO4 with the new update(and me actually trying out gaming mode),actually showed a few FPS improvement in settlements. Surprised TBH!!

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 19 Oct 2017 at 20:39

It looks like Joker Productions has seen some large increases in performance with their AMD and Nvidia cards with the Windows update:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW4dS_1hxuA

He tested a Vega card out but saw the same improvements with the Nvidia ones. Even some people talking about Ryzen getting a boost - I expect even CFL might do so too.

DarkHorizon472 · 19 Oct 2017 at 20:53

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It looks like Joker Productions has seen some large increases in performance with their AMD and Nvidia cards with the Windows update:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW4dS_1hxuA

He tested a Vega card out but saw the same improvements with the Nvidia ones. Even some people talking about Ryzen getting a boost - I expect even CFL might do so too.

My 1700 in bf1 gets 100-144fps at 1080p. Since the update nearer to 144fps , higher cpu utilisation on average and higher temps.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 19 Oct 2017 at 20:55

DarkHorizon472 said:
My 1700 in bf1 gets 100-144fps at 1080p. Since the update nearer to 144fps , higher cpu utilisation on average and higher temps.

Seems to be really be helping.

Journey · 19 Oct 2017 at 20:58

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Seems to be really be helping.

I just ran a couple of benchmarks on the Mrs's PC and Superposition saw a good uptick in performance, as did 3D Mark, that's an I7 4770 though with an RX 480.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 19 Oct 2017 at 21:02

Journey said:
I just ran a couple of benchmarks on the Mrs's PC and Superposition saw a good uptick in performance, as did 3D Mark, that's an I7 4770 though with an RX 480.

I will be interested to see if someone with a Ryzen CPU notices FO4 doing any better since that is not really a strong point on Ryzen??

FO4 did seem a bit better overall on my IB Core i7 than before although not sure if that was since I also enabled game mode for the first time ever(for some reason I thought it was only for streaming,LOL).

gavinh87 · 19 Oct 2017 at 21:05

Journey said:
I just ran a couple of benchmarks on the Mrs's PC and Superposition saw a good uptick in performance, as did 3D Mark, that's an I7 4770 though with an RX 480.

I'll give 3dmark a whirl when I get in

DragonQ · 20 Oct 2017 at 08:54

Hmm, will give Overwatch a try tonight if I have time to see if there's any improvement in FPS. I can't really see how there would be since the game already uses 6 cores very evenly and my GPU is almost always maxed out but we'll see.

Also, I thought the 6-8 core gaming improvements were only when using Game Mode? Does anyone actually use that? I've turned all the Game Bar stuff off.

jaffveyda · 20 Oct 2017 at 09:39

DragonQ said:
Hmm, will give Overwatch a try tonight if I have time to see if there's any improvement in FPS. I can't really see how there would be since the game already uses 6 cores very evenly and my GPU is almost always maxed out but we'll see.

Also, I thought the 6-8 core gaming improvements were only when using Game Mode? Does anyone actually use that? I've turned all the Game Bar stuff off.

I tried OW yesterday and my FPS count stays above 144 now all the time.

DragonQ · 20 Oct 2017 at 09:42

jaffveyda said:
I tried OW yesterday and my FPS count stays above 144 now all the time.

Compared to what? With what GPU and driver?

gavinh87 · 20 Oct 2017 at 10:05

DragonQ said:
Hmm, will give Overwatch a try tonight if I have time to see if there's any improvement in FPS. I can't really see how there would be since the game already uses 6 cores very evenly and my GPU is almost always maxed out but we'll see.

Also, I thought the 6-8 core gaming improvements were only when using Game Mode? Does anyone actually use that? I've turned all the Game Bar stuff off.

It seems the improvements only come from using game mode now vs game mode on CU.
Without turning game mode on, the performance is the same. That Joker guy is just trolling.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 20 Oct 2017 at 15:49

Another RR leak:

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/4534181

Android OS??

gavinh87 · 20 Oct 2017 at 15:57

Where do they get these names from!?

Orcvader · 20 Oct 2017 at 15:58

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Another RR leak:

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/4534181

Android OS??

Android x86 from the looks of it, not even Chromebook comparing the fields to Chromebook results.

But that would make it an ultra high end Android tablet, it's not even a low end Raven Ridge APU. Not even the latest A73 based chips score that high. Android TV maybe?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 20 Oct 2017 at 16:01

Orcvader said:
Android x86 from the looks of it, not even Chromebook comparing the fields to Chromebook results.

But that would make it an ultra high end Android tablet, it's not even a low end Raven Ridge APU. Not even the latest A73 based chips score that high. Android TV maybe?

If AMD can get into any of these kind of devices it hints at RR being quite efficient.

jaffveyda · 20 Oct 2017 at 20:48

Well my CR15 score went up after W10 Fall update from 1241 to 1256, not a lot but always something.

Deleted member 66701 · 20 Oct 2017 at 20:59

jaffveyda said:
Well my CR15 score went up after W10 Fall update from 1241 to 1256, not a lot but always something.

Ditto - mine went from 3504 to 3532

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