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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

The Raven Ridge chips look ideal for a good cheapish build.. Have got a cheap decent kingston SSD for £28, corsair tx650m for 58 quid.. CPU's should be priced well but that's where it ends with the stupid DDR4 pricing.
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
The Raven Ridge chips look ideal for a good cheapish build..
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And really decent notebooks, too.

Perfect_Chaos said:
Have got a cheap decent kingston SSD for £28, corsair tx650m for 58 quid.. CPU's should be priced well but that's where it ends with the stupid DDR4 pricing.
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GPU prices are the terrible. RAM pricing stays stable, at least doesn't go anywhere worse......
 
That is exactly the same score as the youtube from earlier... I suspect they are wrapping the same data around an article. I would love to believe they corroborated it... But it is wccftech.com
Nice find though :)
 
4K8KW10 said:
Snip.
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At the time of the revenue announcements the stocks dropped 5% and it was reported accordingly. Of course it may well have updated later. You can even see the dip in the graph you showed.

RAM is still higher than a few months ago. I can't buy close to what I could 3 months ago and certainly not a year ago. Sorry if you think they are stable. I am pretty sure your on your own with that one though.
 
DragonQ said:
Oh look, exactly what the numbers suggested. Isn't maths wonderful?
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LOL - Not too far wrong, only there is that wonderful graph AMD put together showing a pretty impressive uplift in performance is possible with the stock cooler and fast ram, which if true will make a lot more games playable at 1080p.

As a technical achievement the A12 9800 is the direct predecessor to this chip... and it looks like it is going to be close to twice as powerful on the GPU and it has a CPU that can actually deliver as well.
 
AMD Threadripper is better at mining Cryptonight than a 1080Ti, so pick up some threadrippers instead of gpus please :D
“With 32MB on Threadripper we can run 15 threads very fast, and for CryptoNight that could allow Threadripper to get almost the same ballpark as RX Vega. Vega can go higher, but then you have to tweak memory and stuff like that. But, if you’re not tweaking Vega, Threadripper can be within the same ballpark, and it will be much faster than a 1080 Ti for example in CryptoNight.”
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Beren said:
LOL - Not too far wrong, only there is that wonderful graph AMD put together showing a pretty impressive uplift in performance is possible with the stock cooler and fast ram, which if true will make a lot more games playable at 1080p.

As a technical achievement the A12 9800 is the direct predecessor to this chip... and it looks like it is going to be close to twice as powerful on the GPU and it has a CPU that can actually deliver as well.
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I usually don't buy the fast RAM and cooling argument since by the time you spend £50 on custom cooling and £50+ on faster RAM you may as well have bought a separate (and faster) GPU. Right now GPU prices are so bad that it has more merit though, plus of course you're looking for a low-TDP tiny-case setup it might make sense to stick with the IGP.

The main benefits of these chips are low-end gaming PCs (or just that you can do somewhat reasonable gaming on a machine not primarily intended for it), and super low TDP mobile devices.
 
DragonQ said:
I usually don't buy the fast RAM and cooling argument since by the time you spend £50 on custom cooling and £50+ on faster RAM you may as well have bought a separate (and faster) GPU. Right now GPU prices are so bad that it has more merit though, plus of course you're looking for a low-TDP tiny-case setup it might make sense to stick with the IGP.
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I don't disagree entirely, I think the RAM I have is 2400 ( the ram I have for this build has been sitting on a shelf for 4 months... it might be 2800...) to put in because it is all I could afford at the time - and I will certainly be using the stock cooler on day one.... It is going to be very interesting to see if I can squeeze a bit more speed out of the ram and GPU on both and will certainly let you know.

For me the ability to get back to even low end gaming from just having the Xbox for ages is a big deal, it is what I can get so I am happy - it is also hopefully a step on a path... the CPU is going to be perfectly adequate when hopefully I add a graphics card in 6 months, then possibly towards the end of next year a more powerful CPU if that is holding me back.
 
I haven't seen any marketing saying that the new APUs are HSA compatible. Has AMD abandoned that road due to lack of interest from developers?
 
theforce said:
I haven't seen any marketing saying that the new APUs are HSA compatible. Has AMD abandoned that road due to lack of interest from developers?
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Yeah, i think they have, and its a shame because when implemented the performance boost was massive, even compared to Intel's performance AMD running HSA was multiple factors faster.
 
theforce said:
I haven't seen any marketing saying that the new APUs are HSA compatible. Has AMD abandoned that road due to lack of interest from developers?
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humbug said:
Yeah, i think they have, and its a shame because when implemented the performance boost was massive, even compared to Intel's performance AMD running HSA was multiple factors faster.
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Lots of activity in the linux kernel regards ROCm. Not 100% positive with regards the up coming APU's but they should work, Current ryzen CPU's do as well as polaris/vega chips irrc
 
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