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AMD Zen3 event thread

Doobedoo said:
Mate Intel are and have been irrelevant to me for quite a while now.

I’m talking about Amd in an Amd thread.
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I get what where guys who are complaining about pricing are coming from. It reflects expectations.
After buying into threadripper where AMD have no competition, it's a premium product that is priced in a market with no competition, this includes the motherboards etc. AMD aren't really a value proposition so much.
Zen 3 is kinda positioning itself in that way too. The guys who game on rtx 3090s will probably be thinking why not the 5900X now. I reckon AMD will add more SKUs to fill in the gaps at a later date though.
 
From the performance comparison charts vs intel are they using intel cpus at stock or oc, because then it doesn't seem so great given intel have had price cuts.
 
tommoT.Striker said:
I get what where guys who are complaining about pricing are coming from. It reflects expectations.
After buying into threadripper where AMD have no competition, it's a premium product that is priced in a market with no competition, this includes the motherboards etc. AMD aren't really a value proposition so much.
Zen 3 is kinda positioning itself in that way too. The guys who game on rtx 3090s will probably be thinking why not the 5900X now. I reckon AMD will add more SKUs to fill in the gaps at a later date though.
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Performance is expected to increase after every generation price I don’t expect to increase just because they can. They are on the same 7nm process where yields are incredibly good, they will be making good money on each part as it is, so what they’ve done is instead of making the same money as the last gen or slightly more, they will now make be making nothing from me. Something or nothing which one is better?

But hey I’m patient I can wait until prices drop or non x skews arrive. Or just buy a Ps5 and not have to deal with any of this.
 
BluesFanUK said:
So why not ignore the 5800x, then see what Intel do, and if needs be go and release with 5800x with 10 cores.

All a bit weird from AMD. The launch has made Zen 2 more appealing to me.
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The latest rumours have Rocket Lake down for a March launch, so that's another six months of waiting right there. The problem with always waiting for the next big thing is that by the time it arrives, the next next big thing is on the horizon and maybe you should wait for that.

Buying Zen 2 at clearance pricing (if it comes) is a perfectly sensible option though. If you're planning to be gaming at 4K, it's not going to make a jot of difference as you won't be hitting high enough framerates for it to matter.
 
People saying they're underwhelmed with 19% IPC and 26% average gaming uplift at 1080?? WTF it's the same price as a 9900K from a year ago but a million times better and faster!
 
FoxEye said:
You gone get mobbed by the AMD fans for saying that :p "Can't compare" "not the same" "best launch ever" "marry me Lisa" etc :p

Effectively there is no low end now. £300 and up if you want to buy an AMD CPU. £450 if you want 8-core.
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I am a Amd fan and the 6 core at £300 is ****, I don't care it is a 5600x, to me if they not got a 6 core at around £200/220 then I go this gen or wait for AM5.

I wait for Black Friday or see if prime day gets me some bargains.
 
So for a gamer these chips make little sense for the price as they're just a single digit gain over the cheaper I5 10600k and for multicore you can get a 8 or 12 core zen 2 part for the price of a 6 or 8 core zen 3 part.
 
queamin said:
I am a Amd fan and the 6 core at £300 is ****, I don't care it is a 5600x, to me if they not got a 6 core at around £200/220 then I go this gen or wait for AM5.

I wait for Black Friday or see if prime day gets me some bargains.
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They'll definately be more products in the stack later on. They wouldn't leave the £200 market wide open for Intel.
 
If these are right then I don't see what the issue is;

We now know the price of AMD's Ryzen 5000 processors:

  • AMD Ryzen 9 5950X: $799 (around £620, AU$1,100)
  • AMD Ryzen 9 5900X: $549 (around £420, AU$760)
  • AMD Ryzen 7 5800X: $449 (around £350, AU$630)
  • AMD Ryzen 5 5600X: $299 (around £230, AU$420)
These are slightly higher prices than AMD Ryzen 3rd Generation chips, which also saw higher prices than Ryzen 2000. Here are the prices AMD Ryzen 3000 chips launched at for comparison:

  • AMD Ryzen 9 3950X: $749 (about £590, AU$1,080)
  • AMD Ryzen 9 3900X: $499 (about £390, AU$720)
  • AMD Ryzen 7 3800X: $399 (about £310, AU$580)
  • AMD Ryzen 7 3700X: $329 (about £260, AU$480)
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3600X: $249 (about £200, AU$360)
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3600: $199 (about £160, AU$290)
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3400G: $149 (£139, AU$240)
  • AMD Ryzen 3 3300G: $99 (£94, AU$144)
They are better by comparison on every level and we are 18 months down the line...
 
I think the prices seem just a tad high tbh, about 10% less because of cooler missing and to rinse intel would have been correct, at these prices feel abit too on par with intel and i dont think we are there yet.
 
Joxeon said:
So for a gamer these chips make little sense for the price as they're just a single digit gain over the cheaper I5 10600k and for multicore you can get a 8 or 12 core zen 2 part for the price of a 6 or 8 core zen 3 part.
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Going by the single thread improvement, I'd expect the 5600X to competitive with the 3700X in multi-thread workloads - for a lot less energy. Seems reasonable it's closer to 3700X pricing than 3600X.
 
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