Poll: AmorIn or AmorOut?

AmorIn or AmorOut?

  • AmorIn

    Votes: 66 57.9%

  • AmorOut

    Votes: 48 42.1%
  • Total voters
    114
Glasner then.

www.telegraph.co.uk

Next Man Utd manager: Oliver Glasner among contenders to replace Ruben Amorim

Exclusive: Old Trafford hierarchy are huge admirers of work done by Austrian at Crystal Palace. Plus, the other candidates to succeed Amorim
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Edit :: although it's perhaps not quite that clear. They mention De Zerbi as well but surely that's not likely given all the Greenwood stuff etc.
 
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Shamikebab said:
Not sure they'll have a clue personally. Don't think many were linking us with Amorim before we hired him.
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True, while Burt and particularly Ducker are fairly credible, it's a bit of a scattergun article.

We'll have to wait for the Ornstein tweet :D
 
Robbo said:
We talk often about the club and squad needing an overhaul, and it does, but you have to balance that against expectations, scrutiny and results, and he got that all wrong. You cannot be a successful manager without being pragmatic, and he absolutely isn't.
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And it is getting an overhaul. I think that generally I am happy with our transfers over the summer. The fundamental issue is that he hasn't be pragmatic, adaptable and has not got us going in the right direction with enough speed. Expectations were low for this season but they expected far better than he has delivered. The club will have likely sacked him because nothing he has shown suggests he is the right man for the job and the comments yesterday were just enough to push them over the edge.
 
31% premier league win ratio is pretty bad for a club like Man U.

That's what you'd expect from someone managing a team trying to stay up every year.

Would Ruben go to West Ham if they sack Nuno? They wanted him didn't they, can't remember how that went to be honest. Or will he feel a bigger job is still a goal. Probably better to go to some European side
 
Mint8 said:
The team 6th in the league and sack their manager - when are they going to wake up and realise they are no longer a big club but just another one of the many Premier League also-rans..
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I think it’s safe to say he hasn’t been sacked for his league place though?
 
fez said:
The fundamental issue is that he hasn't be pragmatic, adaptable and has not got us going in the right direction with enough speed. Expectations were low for this season but they expected far better than he has delivered.
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Genuine question is why?
Ok he's got his preferred game plan which he believed was the way to
a) compete with the top sides in the league and Europe
b) play an exciting attacking and possession dominant style that would be true to the traditions of the club

I always felt the system talk was overdone and actually what he was doing was trying to assert himself over some lazy players by using the 3-4-3 framework to hold them to some structure and instill the work rate required to be a top side. This team did not press consistently under ten Hag. They had very little shape, were routinely played through and humbled by teams like Brighton, Bournemouth, Palace. We were a "moments" team. I feel he broke that pattern of behaviour and was starting to get players working as hard off the ball as on it. Yesterday was a good example - last season we would have lost that game. Leeds would have outfought us, out run us and likely would have won. I don't underestimate how hard it is to get a group of players to graft out a result when they have been used to losing or occasionally rescued by Bruno Fernandes.

If Amorim had compromised before getting the effort levels competitive then he knew he would have lost authority and that's critical at a club like United.

Regardless, Ineos have effectively now wasted 14 months and need to hope that they get some sort of bounce in the short term and not a run of 4 defeats - Burnley, Brighton, City, Arsenal.
 
Calpol said:
Genuine question is why?
Ok he's got his preferred game plan which he believed was the way to
a) compete with the top sides in the league and Europe
b) play an exciting attacking and possession dominant style that would be true to the traditions of the club

I always felt the system talk was overdone and actually what he was doing was trying to assert himself over some lazy players by using the 3-4-3 framework to hold them to some structure and instill the work rate required to be a top side. This team did not press consistently under ten Hag. They had very little shape, were routinely played through and humbled by teams like Brighton, Bournemouth, Palace. We were a "moments" team. I feel he broke that pattern of behaviour and was starting to get players working as hard off the ball as on it. Yesterday was a good example - last season we would have lost that game. Leeds would have outfought us, out run us and likely would have won. I don't underestimate how hard it is to get a group of players to graft out a result when they have been used to losing or occasionally rescued by Bruno Fernandes.

If Amorim had compromised before getting the effort levels competitive then he knew he would have lost authority and that's critical at a club like United.

Regardless, Ineos have effectively now wasted 14 months and need to hope that they get some sort of bounce in the short term and not a run of 4 defeats - Burnley, Brighton, City, Arsenal.
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Time will tell. It's not like he was the one in goal when Onana was making errors, it's not like he's in front of goal when Sesko misses. He can't run for Casemiro nor can he defend for Yoro.

Neither can the new manager.
 
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