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Anandtech: Benchmarked – Civilization: Beyond Earth

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Deceptor said:
I never mentioned the games DX/Mantle performance, nor was I ever specifically talking about them. My post was that your statement in response to someone talking about it was worrying, and the implications that go with it.
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That was also my point yes, Civ is one game, there are still only a handful of mantle titles (not even a handful), so are all nonmantle games going to get left out in the cold, or what happens if a particular user has an issue with mantle, like on 7*** series cards

It is exactly that approach to customer support that ended up with me selling of all my GCN1 cards
 
andybird123 said:
That was also my point yes, Civ is one game, there are still only a handful of mantle titles (not even a handful), so are all nonmantle games going to get left out in the cold, or what happens if a particular user has an issue with mantle, like on 7*** series cards

It is exactly that approach to customer support that ended up with me selling of all my GCN1 cards
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You do no that it's only bf4 on 7000 series that have issues with mantle. Other ganes work perfectly fine, thief, pvz. Don't make it out because of bf4 the issue is wider.

It's now called a handful? It used to be just one, what will it be called next year when even more drop?

You might need a basket to carry them.
;)
 
shankly1985 said:
You do no that it's only bf4 on 7000 series that have issues with mantle. Other ganes work perfectly fine, thief, pvz. Don't make it out because of bf4 the issue is wider.

It's now called a handful? It used to be just one, what will it be called next year when even more drop?

You might need a basket to carry them.
;)
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A quick google for gcn1 type cards, problems and mantle in the games you mention reveals a stuttering problem and no mention of it being fixed - i held on to my 7970m hoping mantle would breathe some life in to it, but thief was the game that broke my resolve

So no, lack of proper support for older gcn cards is not limited to one game
 
andybird123 said:
A quick google for gcn1 type cards, problems and mantle in the games you mention reveals a stuttering problem and no mention of it being fixed - i held on to my 7970m hoping mantle would breathe some life in to it, but thief was the game that broke my resolve

So no, lack of proper support for older gcn cards is not limited to one game
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Well I know my little bro uses one of my old 7950 on both them games and runs the perfectly fine.

Andy you should know by now a Google search will make any issue look worse then it really is.
:o

280x GCN1 Mantle Ultra PVZ setting, see no stutter here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwBNLy0_-Sg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bYfm6-Pc_M
 
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shankly1985 said:
Well I know my little bro uses one of my old 7950 on both them games and runs the perfectly fine.

Andy you should know by now a Google search will make any issue look worse then it really is.
:o

280x GCN1 Mantle Ultra PVZ setting, see no stutter here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwBNLy0_-Sg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bYfm6-Pc_M
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I had the issue, it wasnt fixed in the timeframe beofre I gave up. You said there were *No* issues outside of BF4. It is great that some people dont get issues, but it also sucks for those that do. And in that case, where you cant use mantle for some reason, having a viable fall back would be nice. The official response above though seems to be that dx support is irrelevant and if you get a mantle issue then shrug shoulders and blame the developer.

I understand matt's position, he wants to sell 290's, but then what happens to 290 users when 390's come out?
 
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andybird123 said:
I had the issue, it wasnt fixed in the timeframe beofre I gave up. You said there were *No* issues outside of BF4. It is great that some people dont get issues, but it also sucks for those that do. And in that case, where you cant use mantle for some reason, having a viable fall back would be nice. The official response above though seems to be that dx support is irrelevant and if you get a mantle issue then shrug shoulders and blame the developer.
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Where as the DX performance been effected? "Nit picking now"

If you mean DX in this game, then you would be happy to know the Civ driver was released yesterday.
 
I've not seen any results on the new drivers, would be interested to see. As yes, the results posted so far show problems like a 40% deficit in performance, or negative crossfire scaling
 
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andybird123 said:
I understand matt's position, he wants to sell 290's, but then what happens to 290 users when 390's come out?
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???

andybird123 said:
I've not seen any results on the new drivers, would be interested to see. As yes, the results posted so far show problems like a 40% deficit in performance, or negative crossfire scaling
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Were? am not seeing it looking at the bench result posted from matt

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=27107153&postcount=188

Results so far are from old driver. Like most games if you want the best performance you need the latest driver. So you hopping, skipping and jumping at the fact Civ was benched on a OLDer driver set?

https://twitter.com/Samshaw71/status/525763933404024832
Attention @CivGame gamers! You’ll need Catalyst 14.9.2 Beta to run the game at its best: http://bit.ly/1wqvEq0
 
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andybird123 said:
The link to the article is in the Op, directx crossfire results, 10% Positive scaling on average result, negative scaling on minimum fps
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And what about the link Matt posted? and I linked above? seems its working fine to me?

Instead spending so much time complaining over AMD crossfire I would maybe start looking at what Nvidia is doing with the SLI in latest games.

Because it dont work at all lol

AMD have Crossfire working in an Nvidia game before Nvidia thats just wrong tbh "Shadow of Mordor"

14.9.2
Mantle API activated for ultimate performance in Sid Meier's Civilization®: Beyond Earth™
Dual Graphics optimizations for KritiKa and SheDiaoZero
Project Cars profile update
Shadow Of Mordor profile update
 
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97fps vs 107fps = working fine? That is 10% scaling at 1080p
And 49fps for a single card, 44fps for crossfire

Lower minimums happens at all resolutions

Not sure what shadow of mordor has to do with this thread, sli works fine for me in that though :/
 
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tommybhoy said:
Gather them straws up from the floor andy.

We get it, anything AMD and you **** all over it with a passion.:p
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No, I really don't. I do sometimes challenge statements presented as fact in shining support of everything Amd do.

If there was an nvidia rep on the forum I would ask them about sli issues, there's an AMD rep in this thread fielding questions, so i asked one only for shankly to tell me there was nothing wrong with scaling, and when shown that he was wrong I get personal attacks fielded at me
 
andybird123 said:
No, I really don't. I do sometimes challenge statements presented as fact in shining support of everything Amd do.

If there was an nvidia rep on the forum I would ask them about sli issues, there's an AMD rep in this thread fielding questions, so i asked one only for shankly to tell me there was nothing wrong with scaling, and when shown that he was wrong I get personal attacks fielded at me
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Personal Attacks ?? Wow really? were have I once in anything I have said attacked you personally? Grow up
 
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