Annoyed :(

Simon said:
Picture the scene, Im driving along a NSL road and a van is doing 40mph, I overtake the van in the distance there is a coach so i decide to tuck in behind the Honda Jazz infront of the Van.

However the jazz driver decides to brake for me thinking I am going to go past him too, I now have no where to go and already commited to braking so can't simple jump back out as I would head on the coach.

S2000 brakes are good but not that good, I end up bumping his rear bumper and stoving in my passenger headlamp into the wing.

Why can't slow drivers just keep driving slow and not go even slower trying to help :(
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Scene well & truly pictured - from dozens of similar incidents I've seen over the years given my grandstand view in my artic.....

You have paid the price for anticipating a situation,but, not considering all potential resulting situations.

I see this quite often.

The Jazz driver was doing what I'd do if I saw a car overtaking in the situation you describe.

An on-coming large vehicle is certainly not the best of overtaking situation - I'd hazzard a guess the coach was exceeding his speed limit and you had'nt possibly appreciated this until too late.

You'd have recieved some choice comments had I being the large vehicle in question.

Something along the lines of "silly chap" but, delivered in that abrupt trucker kind of manner.... :o

Its not nice to damage your motor, consider this, it could have been a whole lot worse.

Glad your OK, hope you enjoy your stay at the road equivalent of the school of hard knocks.

I've been a pupil for years. ;)
 
Lopéz said:
******** IMO. You overtake one, then the other, then the other. It isn't rocket science.
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It was only them two and the road would have definately been clear afterwards hence why I took the choice.
 
Gaygle said:
Na i do agree with the other guy. There is absolutely no point in overtaking 1 car if there are 2 or 3 in front of it who are going equally as slow? Pointless to the max.
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Not true, because it's very rare you get an opening to overtake 3 cars, so you do it one by one when safe!
 
R124/LA420 said:
An on-coming large vehicle is certainly not the best of overtaking situation - I'd hazzard a guess the coach was exceeding his speed limit and you had'nt possibly appreciated this until too late.
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Heh I bet you have seen it a lot.

I didn't misjudge the speed, just rather prefered to not look dangerous so chose the safer option :( Should have kamikazeed the coach now
 
Lopéz said:
******** IMO. You overtake one, then the other, then the other. It isn't rocket science.
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It all depends on how long you're going to be on the road and how safe it is to do so i suppose. On the road i travel there is only about 2 or 3 overtaking spots and i'll generally only overtake someone if there is 1 or 0 cars in front which i can see. Weaving in and out is likely to cause an accident, possibly similar to the one Simon had (not saying simon was being unsafe, just highlighting what other drivers can do in those situations)

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Simon said:
It was only them two and the road would have definately been clear afterwards hence why I took the choice.
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Which i'd class as being okay to do

ScoobyDoo69 said:
Not true, because it's very rare you get an opening to overtake 3 cars, so you do it one by one when safe!
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Like i said, depends how long you're going to be following these people and how many cars are in front. Perhaps a bit of patience wouldn't go amiss?
 
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:/

Its made all the more painful to see in a car I had the pleasure of being taken out in, gutted for you mate, hope its a cheap fix!
 
ScoobyDoo69 said:
Not true, because it's very rare you get an opening to overtake 3 cars, so you do it one by one when safe!
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Exactly. Overtake one car, then the next, then the next, and so on and so forth. When my daily commute involved decent A roads I would regularly overtake cars 1 at a time over a stretch of road. It wasn't pointless, I got into town at least 10 minutes ahead of them and didn't have to put up with their inept dawdling from traffic lights, stalling at junctions, meandering between lanes and so on.
 
Gaygle said:
It all depends on how long you're going to be on the road and how safe it is to do so i suppose. On the road i travel there is only about 2 or 3 overtaking spots and i'll generally only overtake someone if there is 1 or 0 cars in front which i can see. Weaving in and out is likely to cause an accident, possibly similar to the one Simon had (not saying simon was being unsafe, just highlighting what other drivers can do in those situations)
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I rarely weave in and out. I simply aborted a 2 car overtake and would have then been happy to sit at 40 all the way back to avoid a close call with the coach, which was in the dark shadows of the trees I was coming up to and I had quite dark sun glasses.

It seems to be a combination of factors that have gone against me. If it wasnt as sunny I wouldnt have had glasses on and would have took both of them no doubt

I'd normally get annoyed with people weaving in and out myself.
 
Well, the damage doesn't look too bad but as you personally would have normally avoided it, it's going to be more one of those annoying accidents that'll bug the hell out of you for ages :p

I think a supercharger is in order to reduce the likelihood of this in the future.
 
Hi there

I overtake slower cars so I can drive on the roads how I want to drive. There is nothing worse then having to navigate your favourite corner at 30mph because of a slower driver in front. So when safe to do so I pass slower vehicles so I can have fun driving on the roads how I wish to drive in NSL areas. :)
 
When your fixing your car you should fit some Jazz brakes to your S2000, they sound rather powerful ;).

I see this situation day in day out on my daily travels. Unfortunately the only lesson to be learnt is that unless your completely sure of the time/space you have then dont overtake. Oh and make sure your in a low gear so that you can avoid those muppets who like speeding up as you overtake them :).
 
Gaygle said:
Perhaps a bit of patience wouldn't go amiss?
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I don't know about you.. but I'd quite like to enjoy driving my car, and not dawdling behind slow cars. It's not a matter of needing/wanting to be somewhere quicker, just don't want to be bored driving at 30mph where I could essentially be doing 3x that speed safely (not that I ever would :D )
 
Arc said:
Oh and make sure your in a low gear so that you can avoid those muppets who like speeding up as you overtake them :).
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I'm always in a low gear.... I drive a Vtec :D


I could have braked harder i guess but i was aware i was trying to get in a closing gap being closed by the jazz with a van still behind me and so if i braked too much i would have outbraked the van and been in an even worse situation
 
Simon said:
Lol, I'll probably have to sell it if he decides to claim :(
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Oof! You say "if" he decides - I take it the damage was quite minimal to his car, or are you thinking about if he decides to claim multi-thousands for the mental anguish?
 
PMKeates said:
Oof! You say "if" he decides - I take it the damage was quite minimal to his car, or are you thinking about if he decides to claim multi-thousands for the mental anguish?
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Lol, well I said take it to a honda garage and Ill pay for it. He muttered something about his warranty. So had to tell him that wasnt affected.

I know somepeople think insurance company repairs are better than normal repairs for some reason lol Only problem I guess is that he will be without a car. Ill have to sweet talk him tomorrow. Oh and tell him to not brake next time :p
 
Simon said:
Lol, well I said take it to a honda garage and Ill pay for it. He muttered something about his warranty. So had to tell him that wasnt affected.

I know somepeople think insurance company repairs are better than normal repairs for some reason lol Only problem I guess is that he will be without a car. Ill have to sweet talk him tomorrow. Oh and tell him to not brake next time :p
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if his gonna be without a car, his likely gonna be expecting you to be paying for it?

Hope your a good sweet talker. :p
 
PMKeates said:
Oof! You say "if" he decides - I take it the damage was quite minimal to his car, or are you thinking about if he decides to claim multi-thousands for the mental anguish?
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maybe he meant it would cause a loss of NCB and a previous claim which can make insurance very expensive on cars such as the one in question
 
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