Anonymous hacks FBI laptop and finds personal data from millions of Apple devices

Why is Apple getting a ripping? It was the FBI that had the information, and then had it leaked. Bad FBI no?
 
Why is Apple getting a ripping? It was the FBI that had the information, and then had it leaked. Bad FBI no?

because apple gave them the information is the assumption i believe.

Rather than say fighting it in court and bringing it to the public's attention.
 
because apple gave them the information is the assumption i believe.

Rather than say fighting it in court and bringing it to the public's attention.

Ahhh right I see!... How do we know that Apple gave the FBI the information?
 
Ahhh right I see!... How do we know that Apple gave the FBI the information?

well otherwise the FBI is about to be embroiled in one of the biggest court cases the US has seen as apple/the court rips them to pieces.
 
well otherwise the FBI is about to be embroiled in one of the biggest court cases the US has seen as apple rips them to pieces.

That would be awesome :p I guess we'll see...

But I'm betting both will stay hush hush on the whole situation... :( Can't find an honest corporation anywhere these days :(
 
Ahhh right I see!... How do we know that Apple gave the FBI the information?

As mentioned previously, it seems unlikely the FBI were able to get a warrant or order to disclose the details to so many people, so it may have been handed over willingly.
 
It will go like this...

Apple: WTF ARE YOU DOING WE WILL SUE YOU TO THE RAFTERS
FBI/GOV: You know those tax breaks you enjoy....
Apple: Sorry I won't shout again... have a nice day.

*issue vanishes*

Job done
 
As mentioned previously, it seems unlikely the FBI were able to get a warrant or order to disclose the details to so many people, so it may have been handed over willingly.

I don't see why not. If its a large investigation apple may have just said, here you go, find it yourself. The data would be out of date fairly quickly so I wouldn't have thought that it wouldn't be used in anger.

If the government only got permission to look at certain customers, regardless of the data they are given, they will only look at those records.

There is literally not a chance that anyone can know why they have that information, what it was being used for, how it was obtained etc so at the moment its just a chance to bash apple.
 
I don't see why not. If its a large investigation apple may have just said, here you go, find it yourself. The data would be out of date fairly quickly so I wouldn't have thought that it wouldn't be used in anger.

If the government only got permission to look at certain customers, regardless of the data they are given, they will only look at those records.

There is literally not a chance that anyone can know why they have that information, what it was being used for, how it was obtained etc so at the moment its just a chance to bash apple.

Or the FBI?

People can certainly play with conjecture.

I am quite far removed from the 'puter scene these days but I think it's a chance to discuss power of Governmental bodies, data security rights of the individual and the behaviour, particularly, of large corporate bodies.

Not everything has to boil down to anti-apple sentiment.
 
If apple happily handed it over, bad apple?

Depends what the law is. There's pretty strict laws in America with handing over data to authority. Exactly what that entails I don't know.
Be interesting once we get some more info.
I'd be more concerned with this little info, if there was more data. It's a tiny fraction of the number of iPhones out there. So surly that suggests its targeted on something?
But hard to say anything without a bit more info.
 
... It's a tiny fraction of the number of iPhones out there. So surly that suggests its targeted on something?
...

Is it?
How many iphones have apple sold in the USA?
If 12 million records are held by this chap.
What fraction is it?

Figures I see that worldwide sales up to the end of 2011 seem to come to around 120M units, worldwide not USA. So 10% of the entire iphone population is on that list?
 
Is it?
How many iphones have apple sold in the USA?
If 12 million records are held by this chap.
What fraction is it?
?

Well is 26million iPhones in q2 2012 on its own.

Moving on to hardware units, Strategy Analytics said that 250 million iPhones have shipped globally.

Why are you trying to work out USA sales.

Apple is an American company and subject to American laws. You are giving data to an American company, regardless of where you live.
 
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it's a big list, but it's not all iPhones, is it just iPhones or iOS devices?

As I said I'm only making a suggestion, we really need more info. Which we may or may not get.
What else was on the laptop, any suggestion what it was being used for, linked Documants or anything else.

Edit - it includes iPad as well as iPhone.

The group called AntiSec, linked to the hacking collective known as Anonymous, posted one million Apple user identifiers claimed to be part of a larger group of 12 million, purportedly obtained from an FBI laptop, raising concerns about government tracking.
The hackers said they found the data during the second week of March 2012, when they hacked "a Dell Vostro notebook, used by Supervisor Special Agent Christopher K Stangl from FBI Regional Cyber Action
Team and New York FBI Office Evidence Response Team".
On the notebook's desktop they found a file called "NCFTA_iOS_devices_intel.csv". The NCFTA is the National Cyber-Forensics & Training Alliance, a US government taskforce set up to share data between private industry and law enforcement in order to combat cybercrime.
Contacted by AFP, FBI spokeswoman Jenny Shearer said: "We're not commenting."


Read more: http://www.news.com.au/news/hackers...op/story-fnejlrpu-1226465193760#ixzz25XEyjLmV

So intel in name and part of cyber criminal forensics & training alliance.

This is assuming its legit and not just hackers playing.
"The significance of this breach very much hinges on the source, which as far as I know, hasn't been authenticated yet. The data is, however, real based on some of the reports that people do find their own UDID in the file."
 
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