another school kid arrested

Knee jerk reaction.

If the girl does not like it then she should be talking with the teacher in private regarding the situation.

I think she is very racist imo.
 
She said "Could I move groups, I don't understand what they are saying"

Why is that Racist?

It would have been a different story, if it were 5 White pupils and 1 Asian, and the Asian asking to move groups for not being able to understand the White pupils.
 
paul@ said:
Knee jerk reaction.

If the girl does not like it then she should be talking with the teacher in private regarding the situation.

I think she is very racist imo.
Why is she racist for not wanting to have her education disrupted?
 
paul@ said:
Knee jerk reaction.

If the girl does not like it then she should be talking with the teacher in private regarding the situation.

I think she is very racist imo.
She may be 'languageist', but she didn't object to their race. She objected to not being able to understand the language they were speaking when the point of the lesson was to "discuss". How, precisely, is she supposed to do that with a non-English speaking group? The fact that they were Asian is not the point. It's that they weren't speaking English. If they had been, and she'd objected to sitting with them because they were Asian, I'd agree with you. But, assuming the story is accurate as to facts, that isn't what happened.
 
dirtydog said:
It might not be the sole reason but we do have to ask ourselves whether our immigration policy is having a net positive or negative effect don't we. To many people it is clearly the latter.
Unfortunately, 'many people' are too stupid to know what's good for them. ;)

Incidentally, I agree that the country's present immigration policy, and the way that we deal with immigrants in general, is flawed. I don't agree that immigration is a bad thing in general though, but it's clearly something which has to be managed skilfully, and I think we're seeing the effects of bad immigration management now.
 
$loth said:
Unless you have met her then I hope your post was sarcastic, as the news report of her actions were in no way racist.

Yes, but the news reports don't need to be true do they? When later questioned, chavs always try and make it sound like they were doing the right thing. For example, a boy chav starts giving a teacher abuse, swearing, throwing things around, getting very violent and screaming. When questioned about it later, all he says is "I just asked politely for a pencil, and he wouldn't give me it, so I sat silently and didn't do any work"

A bit ott example, but still valid.
 
Geoff said:
But, assuming the story is accurate as to facts, that isn't what happened.
I think that's where the problem lays! Notice that the teacher and the girl have very different stories, as do the police and the girl. It's impossible to know which story is the more truthful.
 
SiD the Turtle said:
A sound argument.

Argument? I was expressing my views on the education system in my area/country. Obviously you dont like people even talkin about foreigners then? you seem to of got on your high horse about it anyway..
 
Arcade Fire said:
Unfortunately, 'many people' are too stupid to know what's good for them. ;)

Incidentally, I agree that the country's present immigration policy, and the way that we deal with immigrants in general, is flawed. I don't agree that immigration is a bad thing in general though, but it's clearly something which has to be managed skilfully, and I think we're seeing the effects of bad immigration management now.
I've never said that it is :) A carefully managed and controlled immigration policy could benefit the UK. Such a system is light years from our current free for all where virtually anyone is let in.
 
dirtydog said:
Do you not agree that having non-English-speaking children in schools is causing disruption and is detrimental to British children's education?

I believe having none-English speaking children in English speaking schools is a problem, however you can't blame them for wanting to learn. It's the ones that don't want to learn that are the problem. However, how are the supposed to learn if they are not allowed in English speaking schools.

It's catch-22.
 
Aww come on we all know there is more to this than what the paper has reported.

Tip of the iceberg. You watch tommrows news when they drag some dirt on this girl as being an active member of the BNP youth movement. ;)
 
Arcade Fire said:
Unfortunately, 'many people' are too stupid to know what's good for them. ;)

Incidentally, I agree that the country's present immigration policy, and the way that we deal with immigrants in general, is flawed. I don't agree that immigration is a bad thing in general though, but it's clearly something which has to be managed skilfully, and I think we're seeing the effects of bad immigration management now.
Yes, absolutely.

Immigration, per se, is no bad thing and in many respects, a very good thing provided it is controlled, and the policy is to do what is in the interest of this country. Uncontrolled immigration, which if you include illegals is very close to what we have now, is not a good thing if for no other reason than that we have no idea what load it puts on things like public services, including but not limited to schools. And when senior government employees admit that they haven't the faintest notion how many illegal immigrants we have, it's hardly controlled.
 
NokkonWud said:
I believe having none-English speaking children in English speaking schools is a problem, however you can't blame them for wanting to learn. It's the ones that don't want to learn that are the problem. However, how are the supposed to learn if they are not allowed in English speaking schools.

It's catch-22.
I don't blame the foreign-speaking children, I blame the government for putting them in English-speaking schools.

The best solution would be for them not to be in this country in the first place.

Second to that, the only solution is special lessons for them where they can learn English without the other pupils' schooling being disrupted.
 
Efour2 said:
Aww come on we all know there is more to this than what the paper has reported.

Tip of the iceberg. You watch tommrows news when they drag some dirt on this girl as being an active member of the BNP youth movement. ;)
Quite possibly. Which is why my first comment was a caveat about the story being accurate, or at least fairly accurate, and balanced.

But why let that ruin a chance for a good rant? :D
 
$loth said:
Unless you have met her then I hope your post was sarcastic, as the news report of her actions were in no way racist.

The 'official' report about her claims she WAS racist, thats why it happened. She has denied being racist.
 
NokkonWud said:
The 'official' report about her claims she WAS racist, thats why it happened. She has denied being racist.
Some people seem to think that even asking to be put in a group with fellow English speakers is racist.
 
dirtydog said:
Some people seem to think that even asking to be put in a group with fellow English speakers is racist.
It is languageist, though.

Hey, do I get a prize for inventing a new "-ism"? And a new word.

:D
 
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