Soldato
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Not much use until you can make gun powder with a 3D printer though.
Another school shooting in the US
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Not much use until you can make gun powder with a 3D printer though.
Not really, no.
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Errol, why do the army use high powered, semi-automatic firearms and not just knives and swords?
A) Because they are cool and go bang
B) They match the overall look better
C) They are much more effective at killing numerous people in a short amount of time
A) Because they are cool and go bang
B) They match the overall look better
C) They are much more effective at killing numerous people in a short amount of time
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Soldato
If someone walked into a classroom filled with kids with a gun, i imagine anyone in that room wouldnt stand much of a chance, which so many cruel past events show.
I imagine its a different story with a knife. I'm almost certain we'd not see 20 kids brutally murdered
Maybe 1 unfortunate teacher defending her\his pupils
I imagine its a different story with a knife. I'm almost certain we'd not see 20 kids brutally murdered
Maybe 1 unfortunate teacher defending her\his pupils 
You're getting confused between assault rifle and assault weapon.
An assault rifle is a specific term used for weapons with a select fire capability.
Just to add, the M16A2 is selectable between semi auto and 3 round burst which replaced full auto. This is still regarded as automatic as it fires 3 rounds on one pull of the trigger, rather than one for one as per semi. The rifle is still select fire.
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I agree that firearms education is vital, but it is by no means a panacea and if you think it is it simply highlights your naivety. Plus, arming a citizen does not turn him or her into Robocop. In high-stress, unexpected situations people hesitate, freeze, cower and run away - even when carrying guns. This was discussed by the readers of a popular firearms blog with seasoned professionals agreeing that even if a 'concealed-carrier' is present during a shooting, robbery or whatever, he or she might very well hide under a table.
Perfectly put!
Eroll is playing devil's advocate, or just holds an immature view towards guns with lines like "MP7 is not available to buy in the US. Which is a shame. That's what I would want to buy if I lived there."
Just got done playing Call of Duty Eroll?
Once again, your logic is not sound.
School mass shootings are more common than school mass stabbings for one main reason. A gun is far far more effective at killing.
Shall we consider the UK, where guns are fairly hard to come by, how many school mass stabbings have we've had? And have they been as fatal as comparable school shootings (say in the US)?
But let's not let logic get in the way of your argument shall we
How is a video game that simulates murdering people any different than a game that simulates raping people? Like they said fantasy violence is a form of porn.
Should rape games be allowed, and available to kids?
Caporegime
Once again, your logic is not sound.
School mass shootings are more common than school mass stabbings for one main reason. A gun is far far more effective at killing.
Shall we consider the UK, where guns are fairly hard to come by, how many school mass stabbings have we've had? And have they been as fatal as comparable school shootings (say in the US)?
But let's not let logic get in the way of your argument shall we
Stabbing people isn't glamourized like shooting people though is it. If we made thousands of video games, movies and songs that glamourized and fantasized the stabbing of people, then exposed kids to thousands of hours of it, I think you'd see a ton more stabbings.
If the media made guns and shooting as mundane, boring and lame as possible instead of being fetishized through fantasy violence, we'd see much less psychos trying to live out the fantasy.
Man of Honour
Just heard on the news that some people think it would be better if they armed the Teachers, I think the phrase they like to use is "The only person who can take a gun from a bad man is a good man with a gun"
Lolkwerk
Soldato
"The only person who can take a gun from a bad man is a good man with a gun"
I think they have watched too many Hollywood films, and then who takes out the "good guy" if he goes crazy? Anyone who wants to go shoot school kids won't need to take their own guns just disarm the guard and use his.
I think they have watched too many Hollywood films, and then who takes out the "good guy" if he goes crazy? Anyone who wants to go shoot school kids won't need to take their own guns just disarm the guard and use his.
Soldato
Maybe a locked gun cabinet in the staffroom and a member of staff being fully trained to use it isn't a bad idea. Better than being completely defenceless when something like this happens.
I personally think the kind of people who do this only feel powerful when they have a gun in their hands. I doubt they would have the courage to try and disarm a security guard to get his handgun. I doubt if they tried they would be successful anyway and even if they were, they would have 15 shots or so? Usually they fire hundred of shots.
It has to be better than being defenceless when this sort of thing seems to be on the rise.
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Is that what you'd do if you ever found yourself in proximity to a gun? "oooh I just cant help myself I have to shoot everybody with it!!!"