Honestly, it might well be that that might be the case. It could be argued, certainly. What is the price of freedom?
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Honestly, it might well be that that might be the case. It could be argued, certainly. What is the price of freedom?
Soldato
Pretty typical for the NRA to come out with the usual 'guns do not kill people, people kill people' line.
Good point.
which is of course entirely correct.
Don
Indeed, and if you do live in the US I hope you never have to feel the pain of losing a child in such a fashion.
There's a bit more to it than that.
They're not assault rifles if they're semi automatic only. They're considered 'sporting' or 'civilian' rifles, and are used for whatever it is people wish to use them for.
An AR-15 derived rifle can be used for the same thing as a hunting rifle or target rifle. Just because it looks like a military rifle, doesn't mean it has to be used for that purpose.
'Assault' rifles are fully automatic, and although available, are a damn sight more expensive and harder to get hold of for the average person.
Soldato
indeed, but doesnt change the fact that people kill people with guns.
Blah blah blah. BUT CARS, KNIFES, FLASHFROZENBANANAS KILL PEOPLE TOO!
I dont get the mentality of some to be honest.
Stopping people getting access to guns, would make it harder for them to kill people. Yes they could still get knifes, and stuff. But seriously how can people not see how varying degrees of ease to kill come into play here.
Guns make it too damn easy! And it takes special people to not realise they shouldnt be accessed so readily.
Its peoples easy access to a weapon the can make the chances of death much more likely is the exact problem.
The US has gone too far to make a ban on all or certain firearms effective. With hundreds of millions of units already in civilian hands, the fear that criminals might be the only section of society left armed, and many owners being stubbornly opposed to any form of gun control an amnesty would be almost useless. America is a child in so many ways. Another solution must be sought.
But what might that solution be?
But what might that solution be?
What do you do then when, once guns are banned, there are massive spates of knife mass murders? Ban knives?
Or do you think that everyone would start being nice to each other suddenly?
Thankfully.
Solution = teaching 90% of the population to carry guns and be prepared to use them against criminals.
Make bullets cost 100,000,000 per round and home loading units a million and round grains 2 million per grain.
Soldato
What does that have to do with guns? 1 problem at a time. Guns being a big problem. Knife less so.
If knifes become a bigger problem, then yes. Perhaps certain rules would need to come into play.
Peoples safety first, Hobbies and gun nut rights, second.
Its a completely different mentality to decide to purposely stab someone than shoot them, where guns are a "way of life", its easier to think of shooting someone, not killing them up close with a knife. People wont just suddenly start carrying machetes and hacking each other up.
Again, you completely miss the point. Guns make it easy to mow down multiple people in a short period of time. Doing the same with a knife is infinitely more difficult. Knifes also have practical uses outside of killing people, not to mention it's incredibly easy to make a makeshift knife out of scrap metal which you couldn't do with a gun.
Luckily, 3d printed guns are coming!!!
http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/21/3791616/defense-distributed-launches-3d-printed-gun-part-site
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Plus it's much easier to kill 27 children unopposed with a semi automatic assulat rifle than it is with a knife.
I wonder why Erol think the US Marines primarily use high powered firearms instead of just knives (which would be much cheaper).
I wonder why Erol think the US Marines primarily use high powered firearms instead of just knives (which would be much cheaper).
Caporegime
Where did you dig that up from ? An assault rifle is defined by its ammunition and magazine type, not its fire rate. Assault rifles can be auto or semi auto. The M16A2 which is standard issue to the US marine core is semi auto only. Its not a fully automatic weapon. The fact its standard issue says theres nothing civilian about it.
You have to consider what the implications of having guns like this for sale legally are.
http://www.thenation.com/article/17...rs-ar-15-most-popular-assault-weapon-america#
Does it not strike you as slightly wrong that these type of weapons are freely available at walmart (Like our Asda / Tesco) with ammunition to match. Is it any wonder that America has a gun problem when semi automatic rifles are for sale at your local supermarket along with your groceries ?
Don
Oh and on the subject of why not ban knifes then, take a big kitchen knife out and go wave it about in the town centre* and see what happens.
*don't do this
*don't do this