Another terrorist attack in Belgium 3 dead

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413x said:
I do wonder if religion just went would the nutters find something else or would it be at least tempered Down?
With the old "afterlife" thing being a pretty big boon, it's quite the motivator.

I'm not sure, but overall I do feel the world would be a better place without religion. Well, at least the contentious ones.
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I doubt it would change.

The collapse of Christianity in Europe led to people seizing on other moral issues, from fighting against perceived injustice/ fighting against wokeness and other substitutes. Obviously that's just my opinion.

You only have to look at the conspiracy nutters for an example of the new church.
 
Raz said:
I don't think your one sided explanation actually...explains the issue here, assuming that by saying Cultists you do of course mean Muslims.

Do you think when large groups of Muslims came in the 60s they were just as eager to kill people? Do you think the equation is perhaps "religion + x + y= terrorism "?
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Can you please stop saying "religion" when in 99.9% of cases it is Islam, and by cases I mean a terrorist murdering an innocent civilian in Western Europe. I think in this particular case we have people taking retribution for a book being burned on completely separate individuals who's only crime was to be from Sweden, so the X or Y would be "Islam+freedom of expression = terrorist murder", so I'd suggest Islam isn't compatible with Western values, if it were a political ideology we'd just ban it, which would be the sensible thing to do.
 
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Roar87 said:
Can you please stop saying "religion" when in 99.9% of cases it is Islam, and by cases I mean a terrorist murdering an innocent civilian in Western Europe. I think in this particular case we have people taking retribution for a book being burned on completely separate individuals who's only crime was to be from Sweden, so the X or Y would be "Islam+freedom of expression = terrorist murder", so I'd suggest Islam isn't compatible with Western values, if it were a political ideology we'd just ban it, which would be the sensible thing to do.
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In recent history, that may be the case, however it rather overlooks that the IRA spent a great deal of time conducting a terror campaign right here in the UK.

ETA was also a terrorist group that conducted multiple attacks on Spanish soil and I'm fairly certain they did not follow Islam (although I am not certain, my google fu failed me)

But to try and paint a picture that "99.9% of terrorism cases" it is Islam, is far from truth.

I would go as far as to say that 99.9% of Muslim's are not conducting terror attacks, are part of a terrorist organization or dream of killing people because of their religious beliefs.

The problem is Extremism.
 
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A2Z said:
Last night was with a friend, and before this attack happened we were talking how the world would be a much better place without religion in it, as it just causes conflicts.

But yea getting rid of Islam would be a great starting point, can't stand it.
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Remove religion, something else just replaces it. Religion will never die, it'll just change.

Generally it's different cultures that don't mix, not religion being the issue. The easiest way to resolve this is not to heavily mix multiple different cultures together who all want to live in different specific ways.
 
Devilman said:
In recent history, that may be the case, however it rather overlooks that the IRA spent a great deal of time conducting a terror campaign right here in the UK.

ETA was also a terrorist group that conducted multiple attacks on Spanish soil and I'm fairly certain they did not follow Islam (although I am not certain, my google fu failed me)

But to try and paint a picture that "99.9% of terrorism cases" it is Islam, is far from truth.

I would go as far as to say that 99.9% of Muslim's are not conducting terror attacks, are part of a terrorist organization or dream of killing people because of their religious beliefs.

The problem is Extremism.
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The problem is Islam’s Sky Pixie Handbook saying it’s absolutely dandy to do horrific things to non-believers.
 
n111ck said:
I think you'll struggle to find someone willing to blow themselves up over a trade deal or incorrect pronouns..
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Of course not, but people fight and are fighting wars over land, ideology (excuse), expansionism. Always have done.. probably always will.
 
Even if you got rid of Religion it would still be the same. Humans have a evolutionary trait deep down inside them where different cultures do not mix.

Yugoslavia never worked. It tried to merge different religions and cultures together. Look what happened.

It is happening all over Europe now.
 
adam cool dude said:
Even if you got rid of Religion it would still be the same. Humans have a evolutionary trait deep down inside them where different cultures do not mix.

Yugoslavia never worked. It tried to merge different religions and cultures together. Look what happened.

It is happening all over Europe now.
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Yugoslavia worked just fine when Tito was running the place. Some regions need a moderately benign dictator to hold them together.
 
Hopefully the slap the lefties have got today will mean they temper their propaganda laden virtue signalling on social media that fuels these sorts of attacks..
 
Devilman said:
In recent history, that may be the case, however it rather overlooks that the IRA spent a great deal of time conducting a terror campaign right here in the UK.

ETA was also a terrorist group that conducted multiple attacks on Spanish soil and I'm fairly certain they did not follow Islam (although I am not certain, my google fu failed me)

But to try and paint a picture that "99.9% of terrorism cases" it is Islam, is far from truth.

I would go as far as to say that 99.9% of Muslim's are not conducting terror attacks, are part of a terrorist organization or dream of killing people because of their religious beliefs.

The problem is Extremism.
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For most religions taking an extreme position wouldn't necessitate blowing yourself up or killing unarmed civilians. Both the IRA and ETA had political aims, we're discussing religious groups. My issue is with people using the word religion, when actually what they should say is Islam, it's just they're scared of being labelled Islamophobic or racist. This is what the left is good at, making people too scared of being isolated or cancelled to actually speak the truth.
 
Interesting geopolitics being enacted at the moment, with terrorism adding some of its usual zest to things. I could almost hear the gasps in the ether when Biden said "the other team" earlier. And with Labour's "other team" councillors leaving the party, not to mention Labour's Sir Keir Starmer aligning with the Conservatives and the US to not supporting UNSC calls for a ceasefire. The usual ducks are all but in a row, could looming elections be part of the mesmerisingly shifting game plans?

Is it, (my favourite life stance) who you know, not what you know playing out? The UN are being their usual impotent self, talking their talk, fearful of walking the walk. Perambulation is all but a lost body movement to them.

The inevitable upcoming further acts of terrorism will really muddy the political waters here and in the US in the near future.
 
imtoooldforthis said:
Would require a certain level of competency that most of them don’t have. Much easier to just kill Joe bloggs on the street who has no security detail etc
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Sir David Amess, Sir Henry Wilson, Sir Anthony Berry, Jo Cox. These are off the top of my head after a trying day, and limiting the list to UK MP's and politicians. my respect and apologies to those I have inevitably missed.
 
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