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Any benchmarks on nvidia cards running 3d?
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You've gotta remember The No1 Dave is running at 1680x1050 unlike your friends res of 1920x1080.
I have to admit going from the Samsung 2233RZ to my new Acer GD245HQ has given a bigger performance hit in 3D than I was expecting.
The new 257 drivers enable you to use Cuda on a specific card which is handy for me using my 260 for PhysX and Cuda.
I'll get my mate to grab the new drivers and do a few benchmarks to see what's what regarding Just Cause 2 and other titles.
Yes the resolution jump is a little bigger but it's not as much of a killer to make it ace for no1dave but unplayable @ 1920x1200 for my friend. I run at 1920x1200 myself, obviously without 3D though.
It's a 50% drop or higher and no1Dave makes it sound like that isn't the case. That's my problem with his post and his accusation that if anyone dare say that current hardware isn't good enough that they either are a) AMD lovers or b) haven't used or own the glasses. My friend enjoys it thoroughly as do I, what he wants is to be able run his games in 3d without the slowdown and BFBC2's case a playable game.
It just seems to be PJS though but my friend gave it his honest opinion. Loves it but needs more power than his GTX295.
so? My points are still valid
No they're not. You've never used it so can't comment.
Yes?
I am not causing trouble in any way, I have not offended anyone?
I was simply stating, all these people who have ATI cards & have never even tried 3D Vision are commenting. But why? They have no grounds to as they have not tried it...
Yes, I am tempted to sell my new 470 for the 480. Mainly due to the OCUK value one being a good price and am tempted to go water cooling so if I do i'd rather the 480 then clock the hell out of it
I haven't played Just cause 2 in 3D, I dont own it and I guess my res is lower then 1080p & the 24" LCD thats now out supporting 3D so maybe that's why I find it acceptable in all the games I play. I used to play BC2 in 3D on my 275 though & found it fine...
I just cant understand why people who have never even tried 3D Vision would reply to a thread asking how well it performs?
maybe the performance hit is bigger than expected when going to 1080p, can't comment on that till asus release their new 27 incher that i'll be buying, but i'd be more than willing to post 3D screenshots of any game that i have showing that they're all perfectly playable for me, including bad company 2 and just cause 2
After a bit of benchmarking and fiddling about, it appears as though enabling cuda just on my GTX 260 in Just cause 2 provides absolutely no benefit whatsoever
You'd have thought that offloading some of the load from the 480 would give you some sort of gains? but no, doesn't make the slightest bit of difference if I enable it on both cards or just on the 480, still getting more or less the same sort of framerates.
Think it's time to sell the 260 and get another 480, along with a new psu
Think it's time to sell the 260 and get another 480, along with a new psu
Cuda water and its performance in just cause 2 that important to you...
After a bit of benchmarking and fiddling about, it appears as though enabling cuda just on my GTX 260 in Just cause 2 provides absolutely no benefit whatsoever
You'd have thought that offloading some of the load from the 480 would give you some sort of gains? but no, doesn't make the slightest bit of difference if I enable it on both cards or just on the 480, still getting more or less the same sort of framerates.
Think it's time to sell the 260 and get another 480, along with a new psu
I'm not sure if the CUDA options are actually working yet - on mine it just crashes the control panel if I change it - and CUDA is still just done on the primary GPU.
This is the only conclusion I can come to, didn't appear to be using my 260 at all.
The grounds are that you dont assume that because someone has a ATI card in the sig that they don't also have an NV card & friends that have Nv cards & 3D vision & as if there are no reviews also.
It's a possibility that some may have seen it on a friends pc, but judging by the comments they haven't and are only going by what other people who have never seen it have said. They are all views that have been dreamed up instead of actually witnessed, apart from those who have gone by what an official review has posted. Basically people answering the question (which is a valid one) with nothing more then a guess. If the OP wanted someone to guess then I doubt he would have posted as his guess is as good as anyone else's.
Sorry, it just bugs me when people comment on something as if they have used it when they actually know nothing about it & have never even seen it used. If someone with 3D Vision came on & posted genuine issues/advise then that's perfectly reasonable & would be a lot more useful to the OP.
It's a possibility that some may have seen it on a friends pc, but judging by the comments they haven't and are only going by what other people who have never seen it have said. They are all views that have been dreamed up instead of actually witnessed, apart from those who have gone by what an official review has posted. Basically people answering the question (which is a valid one) with nothing more then a guess. If the OP wanted someone to guess then I doubt he would have posted as his guess is as good as anyone else's.
Sorry, it just bugs me when people comment on something as if they have used it when they actually know nothing about it & have never even seen it used. If someone with 3D Vision came on & posted genuine issues/advise then that's perfectly reasonable & would be a lot more useful to the OP.
That's a tad unfair. I posted lots of links to mainstream reviews and gtx 470/480 users benchmarking 3d and giving their opinions as I could not answer the op directly and that was after all the OP's main question "link me to some reviews"
My only comment was the noticable 50% to 70% hit in framerates in those reviews and Nvidia users reports which would lead me to beleive that you would ideally want two cards in SLI or live with lower graphics settings.
I will stand corrected by Nvidia users on here that 25 fps in 3d is as good as 60 fps in 2d as far as the gaming experience goes though.
Well at 1080p my friend is loving the 3d environment but he's not enjoying the FPS he's getting. i7 @ 4Ghz, 12gb DDR3 GTX 295 and Alienware OptXTM AW2310 3D. With the GTX 295 in the range of the GTX 480 my friend says he'd need two GTX 480s to get the FPS he wants for his gaming. I noticed that BFBC2 was really slow on the settings he wanted. This was on a brand new install of Win7 x64.
Modern Warfare 2 was well playable with the odd slowdown on extreme situations.
BFBC2 was quite poor as in FPS. When turning 3D off the game ran like silk. Need to try patching it plus I'm not sure if he's tried the 275 driver.
Just Cause 2 wasn't doing well (FPS drops) but as posted here, the new drivers sort some things out. Will get my friend to test some games with the new drivers at the weekend and post back.
Batman A.S is very playable with the feeling of it just being enough and no more. This was me running about with no action happening so I assume for there to be some FPS drops in heavier scenes.
Burnout Paradise was perfect.
Pro Evo 09 didn't work too well with 3D (he bet me 2-1
).Modern Warfare (CoD4) it ran fine for FPS but the 3D effect/depth was better in MW2.
This was about 7-8 weeks ago mind you but I don't think my friend has tried the new drivers and patching games etc as he's usually busy. I'll get him to install the drivers and patch his games at the weekend if he's free but as it stands Greebo, from the reviews and mine and my friends experience you're not wrong well at least for 1080p on a GTX 295.
Isn't the GTX 295 around the same as the GTX 480?.
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depends what you mean by playable i guess, to me anything over 30fps is fine in 3D and sure if you wanna play metro 2033 in 3D on very high then you'll need sli but everything else is fine imo. two very quick 3D pics with framerate overlay
http://www.mediafire.com/?jhlynmgmijz#1
just cause 2 max settings except 2xaa and nvidia only options turned off and metro 2033 with dx11 (dof off as breaks 3D), high and a tweaked fov that i can't remember, hardly the best screenshots ever but as you can see these are probably the best two looking games in 3D and both are running fine for me on these settings (both drop to around 30fps in intense action scenes, which is still fine)
other games like say fallout 3 you can run at 60fps most of the time with ambient occlusion and 4x super sampling both forced on in nvidia control panel and all kinds of mods. its the same with most other great looking 3D games like left4dead2, resident evil 5, prototype to name a few (by this i mean they all run super smooth, not that they all run 60fps)
http://www.mediafire.com/?jhlynmgmijz#1
just cause 2 max settings except 2xaa and nvidia only options turned off and metro 2033 with dx11 (dof off as breaks 3D), high and a tweaked fov that i can't remember, hardly the best screenshots ever but as you can see these are probably the best two looking games in 3D and both are running fine for me on these settings (both drop to around 30fps in intense action scenes, which is still fine)
other games like say fallout 3 you can run at 60fps most of the time with ambient occlusion and 4x super sampling both forced on in nvidia control panel and all kinds of mods. its the same with most other great looking 3D games like left4dead2, resident evil 5, prototype to name a few (by this i mean they all run super smooth, not that they all run 60fps)
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I'm guessing being able to max out every game at all times, at 60fps, will require sli for a good few years. As better gfx cards comes out, so to do more demanding games. Im currently using a gtx 480 at 900 core, on two screens. 1680x1050 and 1280x720. All games run very smooth. There are 3 very good games in 3d that i see slow down that i am not used to seeing in 2d. Being used to 60+fps most of the time, it is noticeable. On the 1680x1050 screen, Bad company 2, Just cause 2, and Metro 2033 run around 30 fps for the most part. This is very playable (it has a feeling of being smoother than it actualy is). Metro and Just cause 2 have some sub 30fps dips.
On the 720p screen these games play around the 30fps mark at all times never dipping below.
So to have 60fps at all times in 3d for every game i need at least 2 cards. But for the majority of games 1 is enough.
On the 720p screen these games play around the 30fps mark at all times never dipping below.
So to have 60fps at all times in 3d for every game i need at least 2 cards. But for the majority of games 1 is enough.